This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
If the UK is going to require adult verification it should be built into your internet contract. Yeah, I'm an adult. I'm paying my bills, of course I'm a fucking adult. I over pay for this garbage internet.
Uploading a selfie? The ai is going to determine if you're over 18? Can the ai determine if the selfie is also ai?
Yeah, it's some serious BS. They are forcing you to hand over and trust Reddit with your personal information, yet I wouldn't trust them if my life depended on it.
At the very least, someone in charge of this legisltion should learn OAuth2 and force the sites they want to comply by only let those OAuth2 accounts access their adult content. If I was in the UK, I'd just pay for a VPN over giving my photo to Reddit. That site is a lobby brigade hellhole whose "we know your dark secrets, we know everything" owner is also probably trading your account details on the side.
Can the AI determine if I'm just uploading photos of Kier Starmer as my ID?
“Reddit has stressed that this system is only to verify users' age, and it has no interest in your identity. Lee further stated that Persona won't know what subreddits you visit, and has promised it won't keep users' uploaded images more than seven days.”
Press X to doubt.
Google uses reddit for its AI training. Just saying.
Time to go to LemmyNSFW
Under the new UK law, lemmynsfw would also need to have some kind of age verification for UK users.
Real talk - or what? If LemmyNSFW isn't based in the UK, what can they do?
Block it? I'd rather have that than deal with processing users face data.
Honestly I have no idea. I guess they could just block it if they don't comply?
While I don't know this situation, in general it tends to be up to the site to block access, rather than the other way around. If they don't, some government branch may issue a fine to the server owners, and if it doesn't get paid it's seen as a crime committed in the UK. Might mean the fineé gets banned, the country they live in might get an extradition order, or whatever.
Again, no idea about this case in particular. This is just based on what I've seen under similar rulings.
Well as a Lemmy admin I'll see if they seriously enforce this on international sites. If not, I won't worry about it. If so, the UK gets blocked. 🤷🤷🤷
I doubt they'll be going after niche sites anyway. Big dogs like reddit, sure. Sites dedicated to porn probably. Everyone else? Doubt it.
Just curious, how would this happen in practice? As I understand lemmy instances are defederated across the globe. Who would they send their demands to? Also there is already some nsfw content in lemmy, are those expected to respond now in some way?
Why doubt, I mean they promised?
It is not just that, I don't trust Persona security, if a malicious actor installed a silent program that monitors users and sends it to a command and control center they probably won't know for months or even years. Cyber security is very bad in most companies.
Question in general about that UK law while there's people here who seem to know things: What about my private, personal website that I run as a hobby? If I have nsfw content on there* that I made myself with (one of (lolamirite)) my own two hands for free with no monetary gain whatsoever, they can't expect me to implement age verification, can they?
* (I don't right now, calm down)
Edit: any non-profit thing, really. AO3?
The “won’t somebody please think of the children” rhetorical tactic is always just a pretext for authoritarianism, mass surveillance and data privacy intrusion. Always. It’s the perfect motte-and-bailey: when you attack the actual motives, the motte becomes, “So you don’t care about children?”
UK is full blown authoritarian now. They have been arresting journalists who are covering the genocide in Gaza and designated a direct action protest group as a terrorist organisation.
Lol. Fuck off reddit.
Yeah, I will definitely trust an internet stranger with my face so they can verify that I'm not underage to access content which could, in case of being leaked, damage my reputation or even destroy my life.
DEFINITELY
does the federated nature of lemmy/piefed/kbin/etc prevent governments from taking action against them?
To follow compliance with the Know Your Customer Pornographic Materials Act, please use the following guidelines for your photograph:
The picture must be clear, at least 720x480p.
The picture must include your entire body, including your head and toes. Portrait only. *This helps us identify you better.
Please remove any articles of clothing, your body must be unimpeded by any obstruction. *Burqas and other headscarves must be removed, no exceptions.
If you were assigned female at birth, you will be required to rotate 180 degrees and upload another portrait photograph of your back. *Please use only your valid binary gender at birth, either male or female.
Further requests for identification photos are at our discretion, our board has full authority. You may be required to upload alternative photos, such as positions bending over to help us identify your genitalia to ensure it matches your birth gender.
Thank you for using Persona. For any questions or complaints, please direct them to: BigDaddyGuns6969@aol.com. Please allow up to 14 days for an initial response, and 88 hours for subsequent replies.
I know this is a joke but I'm worried it might not be in the future.
Harassment will not be tolerated. Your comment has been sent to the board for review and we will decide whether your identity will be removed from Persona. We are not obligated by law to communicate the outcome. You may receive a writ for violating Amendment 3 C, "Requirement of official identification", the pecuniary fine is at our discretion.
What's to stop uploading a random picture of a person? Or even an AI generated person? I get what they're trying to do, but seems like legislative theater more than anything.
I've once attempted to open a bank account where they wanted video proof, and expected me to say a randomly assigned phrase, to solve the issue you mention.
I didn't do it. Fucking KYC is BS.
Banks are highly regulated so it is not surprising that they would be strict in this, reddit on the other hand has no business doing it.
has no business doing it.
Reddit is doing this as a response to regulation as well (1). Governments all around europe (2) are turning communications into a highly regulated environment ("for the children"), because they're afraid of people communicating and having thoughts. UK is just one of the early adaptors.
Why do I have a feeling that a handful of people are going to suddenly become n-tuplets?
Going the way of tumblr? I’m sure it will work out well for them. /s
