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Finally it seems the end of Reddit is near.

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[–] genevieve@sh.itjust.works 281 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

“Reddit has stressed that this system is only to verify users' age, and it has no interest in your identity. Lee further stated that Persona won't know what subreddits you visit, and has promised it won't keep users' uploaded images more than seven days.”

Press X to doubt.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 2 points 58 minutes ago

Oh the cute little corpo is promising to delete your data, how can we not trust him🥺🥺

[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 88 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 68 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Under the new UK law, lemmynsfw would also need to have some kind of age verification for UK users.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago) (2 children)

Or it can just defederate from UK based instances.

.zip has already been trying to figure out how to handle this law, its also UK based.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 1 points 4 minutes ago

Lemmy.zip blocks uk users on its front end but I think its contents is still federated.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 40 minutes ago

.zip blocks users from the UK iirc.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 83 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

This. Can't believe we're seeing "lol Reddit sucks" when this is a country-wide implementation and has nothing to do with Reddit in particular.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 hours ago

So, the UK sucks.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

You are correct. But this doesn't lessen the extent to which reddit sucks.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 41 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Real talk - or what? If LemmyNSFW isn't based in the UK, what can they do?

Block it? I'd rather have that than deal with processing users face data.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 17 points 8 hours ago

Honestly I have no idea. I guess they could just block it if they don't comply?

[–] Teal@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Even though LemmyNSFW is outside of the UK the admins of any instance will be responsible for verification of UK users because of this law. This is why .zip (Lemmy and PieFed) have geoblocked the UK. It’s a lot of work and responsibility to take on.

Here’s the post from Demigodrick explaining this situation better than I can.

Important News - Geoblocking of the UK

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah only if the UK can actually manage to enforce any consequences to site admins outside the UK. I'll wait and watch.

[–] TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

While I don't know this situation, in general it tends to be up to the site to block access, rather than the other way around. If they don't, some government branch may issue a fine to the server owners, and if it doesn't get paid it's seen as a crime committed in the UK. Might mean the fineé gets banned, the country they live in might get an extradition order, or whatever.

Again, no idea about this case in particular. This is just based on what I've seen under similar rulings.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Well as a Lemmy admin I'll see if they seriously enforce this on international sites. If not, I won't worry about it. If so, the UK gets blocked. 🤷🤷🤷

I doubt they'll be going after niche sites anyway. Big dogs like reddit, sure. Sites dedicated to porn probably. Everyone else? Doubt it.

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Just curious, how would this happen in practice? As I understand lemmy instances are defederated across the globe. Who would they send their demands to? Also there is already some nsfw content in lemmy, are those expected to respond now in some way?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Maybe they'll just make the Fediverse illegal in the UK. Or all non-corporate sites that can't afford to pay a company like Persona.

[–] lotharmatthaeus@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

That's always down when I want to use it :(

[–] hellequin67@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 hours ago

It's always up when I use it ... Oh you meant the site, sorry

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

It's always down for it :)

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

Google uses reddit for its AI training. Just saying.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 hours ago

Why doubt, I mean they promised?

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It is not just that, I don't trust Persona security, if a malicious actor installed a silent program that monitors users and sends it to a command and control center they probably won't know for months or even years. Cyber security is very bad in most companies.

https://xcancel.com/H4ckmanac

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 27 points 11 hours ago

Very careful wording there to switch between Persona and Reddit to conveniently omit one from the justification given by the other.