I'm most comfortable within an allegory
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This was originally a Warhol idea, wasn't it?
A six hour film of the Empire State building, as the day goes and the lighting changes, I think it was meant as like a window from an apartment or office right in the thick of Manhattan.
Truth be told, I don't hate the idea. Currently, it could be a framed digital screen on a loop, or showing a webcam feed. Why not a live view of Istanbul, or of the Moroccan desert?
The meme is referencing Plato, so I'd say it was originally his idea.
Thank you for sharing. I did not know about the specific reference, so having a direct link was really cool.
It is 8 hours. I got that movie on DVD from Germany. I have never watched the whole thing and I would be disappointed in myself if I ever do.
I'm pretty sure its illegal to advertise a windowless room as a bedroom in Canada.
It might not be windowless; consider midwinter, when a real window will just be a dark rectangle for most of the important parts of the morning and evening. Having a fake window showing somewhere bright and warm could help lift one's spirits if you didn't think about it too much.
or if you're neuro spicy you probably have blackout curtains so daylight doesn't matter anyway.
i love my blackout curtains.
Basement windows have to be larger than a specific standard. In your basement window is a foot high, that no longer counts as a bedroom iirc
Which gives you really fucky barred windows that face a cement wall the same size as the window, that lets in less light than an angled window 1/4 of the size.
PS: fuck illegal basement suites in new builds in Vancouver.
The library in the church my parents made me go to growing up had a full on fake window with a painting recessed maybe 4 feet behind it.
Me visiting cool places in vr:
"Hey cool, we made a smaller cave inside the cave!"
Honestly if you don’t have a ton of other options, I don’t hate this. I always wanted to get several super thin flatscreens and set them up playing 24/7 nature livestreams from different sources. It would be like gazing out portals to different parts of nature.
Sure, being out in nature would be better, but it’s better than blank walls and parking lots.
Another option i was thinking about just earlier today is the "nature" wallpaper that used to be a thing back in the 70s or so. Whole walls covered in giant photos of rainforests etc. I still see them in customers houses on occasion, usually sun-faded which kinda adds its own ambiance
Reminds me of Total Recall
There are a lot of long nature videos on youtube meant for this purpose - some with relaxing music, some without. I'll occasionally play one on a TV when I know I'm going to be bouncing around the house all day, and it's nice.
I don't know of any actual livestreams like that, but some zoos have livestreams of their aquariums or exhibits that are cool too.
10 hours of rain in the forest is my jam.
Explore.org has lots of animal cams, lots of live ones too, they're great although not always the highest quality.
zoo cams are awesome
The Monterey Bay Aquarium otters are my favorite.
I generally play a burning fire vid on my Philips Ambilight at night. It's a delight.
Artificial light. No parallax. Super bright bulb throwing light across the room unless you get a short throw projector, and this is going to get hot and noisy with the fan in an enclosed room for extended periods.
Your TV solution sounds better.
You can get decent projectors that are very small now.
Do you have any recommendations? I like these ideas
This reminded me of a character, Martin Silenus from Hyperion Cantos, who has a mansion. In that mansion all of the doors are actually portals. So when you walk into a new room you're walking into a new room on a different world. So like your living room is on Earth but your dining room could be on the moon. Always thought that was a cool idea.
It's fun and games until the portals turn off and you're stuck in your house... Or on your toilet in the middle of an ocean.
I loved the concept of Peter F Hamilton's Commonwealth saga. People invent wormhole technology. Interstellar colonization is done by opening wormholes directly to alien worlds. Except the tech isn't cheap or easy. IIRC they described an interstellar generator as made of half a cubic kilometer of intricate machinery. They're giant machines that can open portals to distant star systems.
Because of the immense expense, they need to make maximum use of these gateways. The generators operate on regular schedules, connecting to different worlds in the human sphere of colonization. And to make maximum use of the gateways...they run trains through them. You travel to a distant star system by buying a train ticket.
Nice, adding that book to the list.
Yeah I recommend. The chief antagonist of the series, Morning Light Mountain, is one of the best examples of a truly "alien" alien that I've read in sci fi. It's about as far from the trope that aliens are just humans with crap glued to their foreheads, or stand-ins for various real-world human cultures, as you can get.
I've thought about doing this in my basement rec room to make it feel more "open". Plan is to take a couple spare flat screens I'm not using, build a wood window frame around them, and put some curtains over them to further sell the effect.
Just haven't figured out a way to drive them besides sticking a raspberry pi on each one. That would also let me make them "real" windows if I want to feed in the camera views from outside.
You should look at a set tour for Technology Connections on YouTube.
His backdrop is a wall of cube organizers with interesting objects and artifacts from previous episodes. Each cube is backlit, some with flat colors and some with pictures.
The backlights are actually TV screens displaying an array of images that align with the edges of the cubes.
You could do the same thing with a painting and a dim light. Just wouldn’t move. Assuming there are ”fake window” screen saver things for projectors.
Every 467 hours a shadowy figure peeks it's head into the corner
Tap tap tap
It's amazing how many TikTok users don't realise they're just scrolling through ads.
Even when the windows are fake, you put in the panels! Give me an unobscured view!
the ilusion of the window is more important than the view
Plenty of windows are just one big pane.
yhea, but if you just use a big pane, it would look like you're projecting a view, of you use a multi pane window, it looks more like a window.
it's the imperfections that make illusions work
Then put some fingerprints or a butt print on it. If you've never left a butt print on a window you probably aren't doing the right drugs.
not sure if you are sarcastically disageeing or genuinely supporting me, because yes.
Adding fingerprint or smudges will help sell the effect.
Just have the frame of a window around it.
This is the funniest thread I've read all day.
Then cut away the wall inside the frame and put a pane of glass in it.
Then cover up the glass with white paper so you can see the projection better.
That would be quite a lot of chest to clutch
"I warned you, bro! Didn't I warn you? Your soul is bound within the confines of perceived reality, dude. The mind is a cage, my guy! You have to free yourselves from the cave and search for meaning beyond the simulacrum of the senses, man!"