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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 33 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone's jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.

Work is actually one of the worst places to get your social enrichment. You're significantly more likely to change jobs than cities and your innie is less likely to feel like your true self. Furthermore there's a baseline mental taxation of being at work that doesn't come with being in a social environment. And nobody's going to come up to you at a social event and tell you to get back to work.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone’s jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.

Nah, I'm good thanks

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough, it will help with loneliness though. And I'll acknowledge it's hard and awkward at first, but it's a skill and it's one I think many people would appreciate developing. It's like getting in shape but for the social part of the self.

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

lmao. ikr. Extroverts just don't get it. 😔

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 12 points 19 hours ago

Codie A Sanchez does a lot less work WFH, is what I took from this.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 26 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, when I'm looking for sound mental health advice, I ask a CEO. Doesn't everyone?

[–] wkk@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

What if it's the CEO of mental health

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 20 hours ago

CEOs almost never have the skills and experience in actually doing the work of their company. I and other techs have had to do IT work for the CEOs of our IT support company. Plus one of them accidentally opened a phishing email.

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[–] potjandorie@feddit.nl 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This person probably goes to the office and sits in her own private room by herself, because she can't focus with the loud plebs on the big open office floor

[–] b_n@sh.itjust.works 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This person arrives at 10, has a 1.5hour lunch, talks loudly around other people, leaves at 2 because needs to pick up the dog from the dog sitter, complains people are never in the office, only shows up 2 days a week if you're unlucky, 0 days if you're lucky.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 minutes ago

Don't forget all those "networking" trips out of town.

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 21 hours ago

This person is purposely being controversial for attention, they don't truly think this, nor is there any evidence productivity has gone down due to remote work.

Going into the office every day is a scam.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Hard truth I learned as a CEO: Sometimes you have to lie to get what you want, regardless of reality and facts"

Anyone who thinks more work gets done in the office is an idiot, or lying.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Eh, it depends. I find that there is a benefit in highly collaborative projects or in an environment where training is a component.

For instance, a lot of data showed that junior staff productivity tanked as they didn't have the mentoring opportunities that they would have had in a full remote environment.

[–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am the team lead and architect for my group. We have green engineers and interns. The other day my team was publically acknowledged as being one of the most productive and well oiled teams because of the detail I put in. On a weekly basis I am doing mentoring activities and 1 on 1s with everyone. And I still find time to be writing specs, design documents, code, and hour of meetings.

It requires very little effort. What I have found is that the vast number of leads and managers just aren't good at teaching or helping others. It's not a face to face issue. It's soft skills, logistics, and actually wanting a good team issue. All I am doing is the opposite of what all my bad managers did.

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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

right now I am hiding in a call booth in my office on our one in person day a week because the rest of the office is singing along to achy breaky heart while two junior employees throw lifesaver mints at each other.

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[–] alexc@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

I suspect this is mainly because almost all of the CEOs I’ve met are workaholics, and being “at work” is the only way they can self-validate.

And remember, most of them are dark-personality traits, which explains why they cannot understand why you don’t want to go in

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I could spend 3 hours a day on a train and do teams meetings in the office, or i could not do 3 hours a day on trains and do teams meetings at home.

I was paying £550 a month in train tickets before covid freed me

[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It amazes me that leaders don't get this. My office is filled with separate one-sided calls and it's unbearable. Furthermore I've not been in a meeting without Silicon Valley listening in in at least 5 years.

[–] ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They do get it but they don't care. They want you to be uncomfortable and miserable because it keeps up the value of their commercial real estate portfolio .

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Also tax breaks. Many large corpos negotiated city tax breaks for bringing a certain number of employees into downtowns. If those numbers don't meet minimums, the tax breaks go away.
Any we all know how much time, effort and expense a business person will go through to avoid paying $1 in taxes.

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If my next job is office only. I'm strictly only using a desktop PC. You can give me a travel laptop. But I'm never taking it home.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 day ago

"Hi, I'm a shitty person who has an opinion that is self-serving. Let me tell you what I think."

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

performative rage bait, for sure

[–] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 166 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember how clean the air was when most people were working from home?

But shareholder value is more important.

Good luck to this woman finding good employees. Good employees have a choice.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

LPT: when you're this incoherent it's time to reassess your meds.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ah yes. The lament of the middle managers with nothing to do. They feel threatened because it turns out they weren't needed after all.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Managers of technical people are required, but in an efficient organisation there is no need to have layer to manage those managers.

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[–] Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (2 children)

“Why don’t people want to hang out with me?”

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"My only friends are people on my payroll."

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago

"People don't want to hang out with me unless I pay them"

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of sadistic people like this who bond together just fine.

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Time to go back to the office and have still all meeting online with extra background noise. Looking for a quiet corner to be able to hear others properly is great for my mental health.

Also the office life improves my soft skills, like:

  • walking with my laptop open im my hand with a headset on to find an empty meeting room
  • sharing desks with annoying co-workers from other departments
  • enjoying other peoples conversations about their lunch plans from the other side of the open plan office
  • fighting for the thermostat setting and opening/closing the windows
  • embracing the daily multi-hour commute in rush hours

It really builds character.

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[–] judgyweevil@feddit.it 89 points 1 day ago

Does she think sleepless nights are going to improve mental health?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 81 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I am in general a big proponent for going to go to the office, I am an IT guy, and I find I have more focus when in the office, I also don't want to associate my home with work, I need the physical separation and I find it to be easier to coordinate with others in the office.

That being said, this CEO is stupid, loneliness is not cured by being forced to interact with people that I need to be paid to interact with.

I also realize that just because I find the office beneficial, does not mean I get to dictate how other people should feel about it.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I am in general a big proponent for going to go to the office, I am an IT guy, and I find I have more focus when in the office, I also don't want to associate my home with work, I need the physical separation and I find it to be easier to coordinate with others in the office.

Some people do.

The trick about remote work is not that it lets us all work from home, but that it gives us another location and we can pick our best environment.

I found a job that promises "work from anywhere in the country", and many people min-maxed their location for profit. They only have to match time-zone to ensure they're punched in during 'business hours' (and, for some, starting later in their day to synch with the home office is f'n awesome).

But they still maintain "hotel" spots, two of them permanent. People did find some days or many days in the office each week is their jam. Some come and go as per their current needs and best environment. One of my peers went camping, and did a server update over VPN over starlink over smores, and then put the laptop away for the weekend. He was proving he can camp while on-call.

Sometimes I like my view. Sometimes I need a featureless wall to cut down on distractions. I find what is best and I rock that shit. And that's what it's about: find your best space.

When the only space is Office Space, then there is no freedom to find that environment where you crush it today, and that needs to be seen as an impairment. Let us pick our time and place and - sun tzu - victory is assured.

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Lol, immediately revealing that for her work is only pointless zoom meetings. Real productivity there ms CEO 😑

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Sleepless nights for whom? My employer? Ahahah

[–] karashta@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 day ago

"Hard truth" she just made up to fit her own narrative without recourse to facts.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm in the office right now, and 99% of my meetings are through Teams.

My favorite days to be here are when everyone else is somewhere else.

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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Being promoted to the C-suite causes brain damage.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nah, the brain damage is a prerequisite. It does get worse though.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 18 points 1 day ago

This person is a disgrace.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes yes.. RTO is all about restoring the productivity and mental health of the worker. Ignore the declining property value of commercial buildings. Tell me again who stands to gain the most by increasing commercial property value? Ah yeah that's right; Billionaires. Interesting, at the bottom of every social problem we seen to find a billionaire.

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[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

Honestly to a degree I see the vision but sadly the way most workplaces are organized won't improve your mental health either.

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