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I understand the historical significance since the nationalists retreated to Taiwan at the end of the Chinese Civil War.

Back then, and for perhaps the middle part of the 20th century, there was a threat of a government in exile claiming mainland China. Historically, then, there was your impetus for invasion.

However, China has since grown significantly, and Taiwan no longer claims to be the government of mainland China, so that reason goes away.

Another reason people give: control the supply of chips. Yet, wouldn’t the Fabs, given their sensitive nature, be likely to be significantly destroyed in the process of an invasion?

Even still, China now has its own academia and engineering, and is larger than Taiwan. Hence, even without the corporate espionage mainland China is known for, wouldn’t investing in their burgeoning semiconductor industry make more sense, rather than spending that money on war?

People mention that taking Taiwan would be a breakout from the “containment” imposed by the ring of U.S. allies in the region.

Yet while taking Taiwan would mean access to deep-water ports, it’s not as though Taiwan would ever pose a threat to Chinese power projection—their stance is wholly defensive. If China decided to pull an “America” and send a carrier to the Middle East or something, no one would stop them and risk a war.

So what is it then? Is it just for national pride and glory? Is it to create a legacy for their leadership? The gamble just doesn’t really seem worth it.

Anyway, appreciate your opinions thanks!

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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 2 days ago

Stopping american influence

[–] beemikeoak@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 days ago

The lithography machines could easily be reverse engineered.... Mechanically..... Only to find out just how complex the rest of the system is just to get it to even work making crap level chips much less anything respectable near the 3nm level. That would be hilarious. Like when the US left a bunch of helicopters and one of the revel factions got a hold of them...yey! We got the helicopters! Only to find out the helicopters aren't the thing that holds power. Barking up the wrong tree.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Money, power, influence, prestige

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -3 points 2 days ago

lemmitors: They hate Taiwan for their freedom!

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Extreme disdain for democracy. Some psychopaths want to bring us back before the age of enlightement, while using enlightement or (especially in case of China) post-enlightement ideas to do so, because we citizens are all like badly behaving 12 year olds, who need 24 hour supervision on every day on the week, every month of the year, or we might "go insane" from doing something a psychopathic madman does not want us.

[–] Pirate@feddit.org -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's like Spain wanting Catalonia to be under control. Why would Spain want to lose control of a part of their own country?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Too bad Taiwan is not part of China.

[–] Pirate@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It is though. Both countries claim the other part to be part of the other. Denying that is just western histeria.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Taiwan should be part of China. Taiwan has been ruled by China since the Qing Dynasty.

A Democratic China, that is, not this CCP infested bullshit.

Had the ROC won the Civil War, I doubt anyone would complain about China having HK, Macau, and Taiwan.

For most westerners, the support for Taiwan Independence is mostly a democracy vs autocracy issue, not a independence vs re-unification issue.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry tankie. If a bunch of people leave a country they shouldn't be considered property. Re-unification is Chinese propaganda. Most of Taiwan doesn't want that.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

While i agree with you. Taiwan is none of the usa business and usa involvment is a security risk to china

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Likewise the PRC is a security risk to Taiwan. It's understandable why the RoC would like to be close to the US.

I wish that a peaceful not US involved solution could be found.

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

West taiwan should become a part of taiwan. West taiwan is rule by a rough back stabing rebellion. :3

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I mean that's exactly what I'm saying.

ROC should retake mainland and unify China into a Democratic Nation.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Street cred.

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