Mandela was in the terrorist list too and like i said his party was responsible in civilians death. With your logic the dnc would had no right to fight the apartheid. Hamas is in the terrorist list for political reason. Only 40 out of 197 countries list it as a terrorist group. That doesn't mean that i don't think they committed any act of terrorism. If we apply the terrorism designation the usa , Canada , the British and the idf and any other countries responsible of war crimes would have been designed as terrorists
You may think that you don't ignore history but all what you say proof otherwise without realizing it. Israel been oppressing Palestinians since it's creation , every single prime minister was anti Palestinians and Israelis kept voting for those people . I don't mean that they deserve to die but Israelis is not the perfect population that west want us to believe
Yes in an ideal world both leaders would be removed and replaced with ones that actually want a peaceful solution but we are in a practical world. History show us that occupation lead to justified and unjustified retaliation. History show us that the colonizer need to be weaken enough to accept the occupied independence and freedom and this only happen with sanctions and armed resistance .
Instead of waiting for things that will never happen Palestinians will keep support who fight occupation even if those who fight may oppress internal opposition. Hamas support is strong even in Gaza despite desperation. Hamas is even more popular in the west bank because they don't live an as big hell as Gazans do
This is my view Israel should end occupation, a one or two state solution should happen and people responsible for atrocities on both side should be held accountable . This is the pragmatic way of seeing the problem
if saying historical fact making me justifying the death of civilians then you are justifying an society who 82% of them justify ethnic cleansing