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Death rates correlate with education levels, urbanization rate, alcohol consumption, car size, driving laws, speed cameras, and road design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBPkI3CCY8o

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Am I stupid? Where's New Hampshire?

[–] brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

As a MA resident, I have always said that we're highly aggressive drivers but overall pretty safe as long as you can walk the walk. Just never show fear.

Its actually really easy, don't be a fuckwit and you won't get fucked with.

[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 hours ago

God fucking damnit I knew it wasn’t confirmation bias when I moved from Illinois to Alabama and though, “god damnit, people don’t know how to drive down here.”

Arkansas at #3. I am not remotely shocked. People here drive like complete morons who are oblivious to everyone else on the road. Just on your average trip to Bentonville -- which is about 8 miles from me -- you're almost guaranteed to see half a dozen cars blow through a red light. I've had more close calls than I can count.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fatalities per capita is probably less interesting than fatalities per unit of distance driven.

[–] r_deckard@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

There are states in Australia that can swallow Texas whole. Long distance driving is unavoidable, so it's less useful as a metric because it can't be changed easily. It would mean improving public transport, subsidising domestic flights, etc - and we all know how likely that is.

[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 7 hours ago

I mean, you guys have 6 states covering a landmass roughly 75% the size of the US…

Get more states 😜

[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 7 hours ago

I mean, you guys have 6 states covering a landmass roughly 75% the size of the US…

Get more states 😜

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Notice how the states you'd be trying to leave or drive through as fast as possible are all grouped at one end of the scale?

I'm not saying this is the only reason. But it can still be a reason.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's always fun when your beliefs are confirmed. If I were to guess the top 10, it would have probably been those listed maybe a dabble of Wisconsin given their lack alcohol laws and enforcement compared to other places.

[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

Nah, Wisconsin has weather that requires more cautious driving a big chunk of the year.

A lot of the higher end states from the US in the graph are in southern parts of the country which are largely red politically which likely means reduced safety regulations, and have more consistent road conditions and weather through the year.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Pretty clear pattern with the US states. The lowest death rates are decidedly blue and the highest are decidedly red.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Like Tal said, a confounder for that would be distances driven. There are probably similar ones like rural/uban populations etc. It would be great to see a study allowing for these.
I couldn't find one but I didnt look very hard.

edit: coundn't

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Death rates correlate with education levels, culture, urbanization rate, car size, driving laws, speed cameras and road design.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In that order?

edit: OK, so I actually watched the video: #1 was vehicle miles/kms travelled

[–] obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would bet the highest correlation is with drunk driving.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It's miles driven per person. Wisconsin and Minnesota have ridiculous drunk driving rates, but they are middle of the pack.

[–] miseducator@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Presumably, people drive more frequently and for longer distances in the red states. Everyone I know back in my home red state commutes between 30 minutes to an hour, sometimes more, everyday. They're not sitting in traffic either.

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[–] terminhell@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Currently live in Louisiana, close to Arkansas border. The roads are just as bad as the drivers. I learned to drive when I still lived in Cali. I've had to find tune my predictive idiot sense living where I do now. I legit think vehicles are sold here without blinker fluid

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Unless I miscounted they seem to be missing a few states.

[–] SpermHowitzer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I’m a proud resident of one of Canada’s only four provinces.

[–] CetaceanNeeded@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

What a coincidence, I'm a proud resident of one of Australia's only four states.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 3 points 19 hours ago

They only included the two thirds of states that best supported their intended message.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Definitely missing some. I was looking for where Wyoming lined up. Combed the line like 8 times before I decided I wasn't missing something.

[–] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm willing to bet half those BC stats are actually Albertans driving into the mountains. Significantly more westbound than eastbound fatalities in the Rockies. If you fall asleep at the wheel in Alberta you wake up in the middle of a corn field. If you fall asleep at the wheel in BC you don't wake up.

[–] SpermHowitzer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

While I don’t disagree there’s a high likelihood it’s Albertans, very few Albertans drive west and not back east again, so your anecdotal data doesn’t represent your argument.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm from Washington and I'm surprised we're not higher. In the winter it's dark during both morning and evening rush hour, meaning most people are doing their commutes in the dark. It can feel pretty dangerous sometimes.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look closer at the ranking of states. This isn't about weather or external causes. Wisconsin and Minnesota have much worse weather in the winter and are almost as dark in the winter as Washington with similar death rates, but their rates are much lower than Mississippi and Alabama who have no snow and more sunlight in winter. The three are lower even than Arizona, which is usually sunny and rarely has snow.

External things like how many miles are driven on average by the people in the state is huge. Also things like speeding culture, average car safety (poor states have shittier cars or old trucks), and road maintenance are all big impacts, too.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

I don't know enough to be able to extrapolate anything from it, but sounds like there's a lot to unpack for those like you who can.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm genuinely surprised Utah isn't higher on this list. I've driven in many states, and that state has by far the worst drivers I've encountered.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Massholes are aggressive, but not necessarily bad drivers. New Jersey, on the other hand...

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Massholes were particularly bad drivers, but I think the speeds are typically lower and the quality of car higher than some poorer and more wide open states.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It doesn't have 50 american states, 10 provinces 3 territories, and 8 Australian states (sorry I don't know if they are classed otherwise)

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[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

In the UK in 2023, it was about 2.5 per 100,00 people.

Sauce

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There are a lot of missing people underwater in their cars, in the South and Midwest.

[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

14 missing states, including South/North Dakota, Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Nebraska, Alaska, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Delaware, Rhode Island, Hawaii, and West Virginia. Most of those states barely have 100,000 people.

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