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I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I'm starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I'm feeling like I'm just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don't feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare...

I think I'll be staying home this year too... anyone else?

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[–] DarthKaren@lemmy.world 7 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm a USAF vet. My ancestors literally fought in the revolutionary war, and signed The Declaration of Independence. I'm going through the motions this year, but I don't feel it at all. I'm pissed that we're multiple stages into a nazi regime. I'm profoundly flabbergasted at how anyone could be for this. How anyone that is for it, can't see that they're going to be the "out" party. Some already are seeing it.

I'm incredibly disappointed that the news has gotten so out of touch that they just rolled over and lapped up the rhetoric. Local news is all sunshine and rainbows while ICE kidnaps people, and a corrupt POtuS breaks the constitution left and right. While he deploys military against its own citizens. While rights are stripped, aided by a corrupt SCOTUS. While the rich get richer off of our backs. While the checks and balances are obliterated.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

stop “going through the motions,” then? do something?? anything!????

idk tbh anytime i see someone act as surprised as you are at this point it’s someone who believed, strongly, in the noble lies fed to us. i don’t mean to judge you pointedly, but knowing you’re an air force vet… doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in the counterpoint to that opinion.

i came from a family with a lot of military brats so im confident in saying 99% of people who enlist are either doing so out of economic desperation (aka coercion) or they’re dumb enough to believe the shit the recruiters/propoganda/government spew. if i offend… that’s fine. i have respect for the trauma, both physical and mental, that vets have gone through but i think you guys aren’t just cogs in a machine and are morally culpable for what you’re involved in doing. i respect the people on an individual basis, but spit on the org as a whole.

anyway idk not to babble on and on but point being maybe the euros are right when they say none of us have the balls to do what needs to be done. people won’t even say what needs to be said because they fear losing their jobs and careers due to corporate, dystopic surveillance of their every word. it’s the most milquetoast acceptance of literal fascism in history and your comment and the behavior you espouse is exactly why they’re able to do it.

don’t get me wrong, i’m not casting stones. i am not without sin either. i’m sitting here shitposting on the internet instead of marching. i’m also part of the problem; but it’s time we start calling it out instead of getting offended at the notion we are just letting it happen.

people won’t even say what needs to be said because they fear losing their jobs and careers due to corporate, dystopic surveillance of their every word.

in this spirit i’ll be the first to say. fuck ice. i won’t self-police myself for thought crime anymore. the first chance i get to kill an ice agent im taking, and every true fucking patriot should feel the same. it’s time to water the tree of liberty, man.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago

FYI the Women's March org is hosting "Free America" protests for the July 4th weekend. See the Women's March site here. Some other groups may be organizing protests too, but from what I've read the WM ones are probably the biggest.

If there's not a scheduled protest nearby there's always the option to make a sign and take to a street corner for a solo protest. If you're feeling especially ambitious there's always making a giant sign to prop up against the chain link at an interstate overpass (I've never done this but it looks fun).

[–] dodgeflailimpose@lemmy.zip 2 points 33 minutes ago

i never understood how people especially can be proud of once country. in Europe being a patriot is very much frowned upon.

[–] dodgeflailimpose@lemmy.zip 1 points 29 minutes ago

I would welcome a brain drain to Europe.

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 23 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but HOW THE FUCK could I EVER be proud of this country anymore??? We've done nothing to deserve respect or patriotism.

[–] imachillin@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

Yep. Staying home, donating, or protesting if something’s going on. It’s just a long weekend to me now. No flag flying at this home for sure… unless it’s a No Kings flag.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I've decided to actively take the flag back from conservatives. There are some good ideals and good people in this country, and good people who fought for those ideals. I'm not proud of most of what the government has done and all of what it is doing now, but I can be proud of the people who want to get along with everyone and fight for diversity and freedom and the good things that should be fought for.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 6 points 2 hours ago

Being a Brit, for years I've jokingly referred to the 4th of July as 'Rebellion Day' to my USian friends. Not sure I'm joking any more, just hopeful. Go on. Rebel!

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I live abroad, so I can just ignore the whole stupid thing. 😄

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago

Can't type.... Robot AI dog is following me....gotta keep running. Freedom!

[–] trslim@pawb.social 4 points 2 hours ago

I don't even like to call myself American. I'm a veteran, and it turned me off of America more than anything.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I think you mean No Kings Day.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

There's nothing left to be proud of. Just vague platitudes about freedom and performative military worship that have been socially beaten into people since 2001. I have no faith remaining in my fellow countrymen. I am unable to clearly see a future for myself living here as I am now. What is left to be patriotic about?

All the true patriots are dead. They were buried long ago. Modern patriotism is a marketing gimmick. I refuse to be a party to it.

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I’m traveling outside the US. Got a decent price on the flights too

[–] FollyDolly@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

I'm not doing anything for the forth. Fuck America, I am not celebrating my country, because my country wants me dead. Fuck em.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Not at all, but I'll take the paid day off

[–] canajac@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

How many will die on July 4th? What parade will be targeted? Who will be the next mass murderer? Stay home for your safety people. Too many crazies out there now to do anything in public.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm a pyro by nature, and love things that go boom. But yeah, not doing anything tomorrow.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

While walking the dog I keep tabs on houses that have flags up, and there has been an uptick for about a month now. I assume it’s for the 4th, but I’m curious who will keep their flags up.

I’ve also noticed that some people keep putting theirs up then taking them down, and I wonder what changes…

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The only celebration I will engage in this year is protest or subversive guerilla action

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeah I am sitting here in my shitting rotting trailer that I own thinking to myself fuck America.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

I get double pay for the holiday, yay!

[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I'm going out to a march on the 4th of July. We're protesting for independence from America

[–] LoboAureo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Me, but not from USA, so....

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hope your country becomes one big sinkhole, y'all are the most embarrassing, idiotic, mean, evil people. Go celebrate your scum country

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 points 2 hours ago

I hope you keep this energy when your country does something stupid that you don't agree with.

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