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State-level patriotism is always bullshit to begin with.
That's how you're tricked into loyalty based on the most arbitrary reasons.
Be the messenger of humanity and get curious about the Universe. People are brothers, and there's no pride in being born in one plot of land over the other.
As if there was a reason to celebate that cancer country any other year
As an immigrant to the US, I've always found the blind patriotism commonplace here to be very strange. It feels even more alienating now than ever before.
4th of July? You mean the Ungrateful Colonists Insurgence Day?
After thinking about this myself, I’m starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I’m feeling like I’m just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.
Always have been, always will be.
The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare
Don't worry, once they deported or killed all the ~~Jews~~ illegals the prices will surely come down.
I’ve never been more ashamed to be an American.
I'm a-shamed to be an A-merican, Where at least now I can't see. And I won't forget the libs who cried, who gave that right to me.
Lemmy sings
I find it reassuring that some people are not proud of grabbing random people off the street to send them to their death with a smile.
Yeah… feels like the meaning behind the holiday has been completely lost. It’s hard to celebrate when so many people are struggling with basic things like housing and healthcare.
Call for independence from everything GOP and Trump on July 4th?
Flags have become a warning over the last decade or so about the person waving it. It no longer has the hope of a better America, solidarity, or welcome; it’s a symbol of a myopic, selfish, aggro, uneducated person full of performative nationalism and real hatreds.
Our independence was supposed to free the people of kings and tyrants. It’s been 249 years since 1776, we have undone what the Constitution authors fought for.
Our independence was supposed to free the people of kings and tyrants. It’s been 249 years since 1776, we have undone what the Constitution authors fought for.
That's what happens if you stick with a quarter-millennium old prototype of a semi-democratic system.
The constitution was revolutionary and ground-breaking, a quarter millennium ago. But still running that old piece of toilet paper as the basis of a democratic system in 2025 is like driving a Ford Model T today and claiming that it still is the latest and greatest automobile ever created.
Unless a large protest is happening in my city, I'm not planning to be outside on July 4.
Plan it
I’ll be staying home this year. There is nothing to celebrate. At this point I’d rather watch it all burn down.
I still have hope, until I am forced to emigrate I won't be giving up on us. This country at one point saved my ancestors from doom, I believe it can again. It's actually the "America sucks" crowd we need the most. In the words of AOC: resist, make them make us.
What, exactly, should I be proud of?
A nation that is moving backwards on human rights, increasing wealth inequality, and got really “mask off” about supporting genocide. A nation that is inherently dysfunctional and wreathed in corruption.
I haven't been necessarily patriotic for a long time because why pledge allegiance to a single nation? The only reason I really care about July 4 is the fireworks. It's more tradition than anything that I see them.
Anyways, both of his terms make me feel vindicated in not being patriotic in a country.
I'm kinda the opposite, but I have the same reasons. I love where I live, I just wish they'd do better and I do what I can to help. I don't need to wave a flag, people can see where I stand by what I do. If that's not patriotism I don't know what is.
Obama was the last president that made me believe the US was trending towards progress. He proved to be a let down on many issues but I was still hopeful that the next president will be better. On many issues the country seemed to be heading in the right direction, there was even a plan for a national high speed rail network.
He seems to be the pinnacle of US presidents. It has only been going down since him.
I haven't felt patriotic for July 4 since I was a teenager. And I grow more aliented every year.
Oh goodness no. America has fallen, what the fuck does July 4th mean.
I’m very proud to be a Californian. I’m utterly embarrassed to be an American.
I've never felt patriotic. It's not like I chose to be here and, frankly, the more I learned about the rest of the world, the more I dislike about my own home.
Also fireworks are boring af unless you're manipulating them to be more dangerous and blowing things up. Like hammering down a whistler and tossing it into a porta potty where an ICE agent is taking a shit.
What the fuck would I have to be proud of? The US has been on a downward trend for a long time and that's accelerating
No. Though I'm not American which may impact that
that's really unamerican of you
Fuck yeah
I think that’s normal considering everything going on.
By the way, I live in the CA bay area. Interestingly I went grocery shopping today and no kidding -I felt like I was in a small town in the midwest or something. I looked around and it was mostly older white people shopping, like you couldn’t help but notice. I told my bf, wtf are we in Idaho or something lol this doesn’t feel like the bay area?
I think there’s a combination of people being tired of increasing inflation and burnt out by the barrage of shit going on in the news. I don’t imagine minorities, particularly immigrant families are feeling very patriotic right now. Or people are straight up worried about ICE kidnappings. Which by the way, I heard from a neighbor that ICE has been walking into the hospital she works at and waiting outside to snatch people. Terrible…
I'm surprised there aren't massive protests scheduled for July 4.
I believe there are
I grew up with smart parents. We were never patriotic, this country has sucked for decades
Going to be spending the 4th building guillotines in my garage
Can I help?
It's been almost 20 years since I felt patriotic. I mostly just comfort the dog and hope the yahoos don't accidentally burn my house down.
Not being American I always found the whole thing very creepy. Like, North Korean military parade-creepy.
For the record, we don't have anything like that where I'm from, but the closest things we do have are also very creepy. Patriotism in general is extremely not cool, honestly.
Patriotism is the little sibling of nationalism, and the boundaries are fluid. I will never understand why people are proud of other people's accomplishments and make them their own. Or is it because people were shat on somewhere else in the world than everyone else? Makes absolutely no sense.
I screencapped this many moons ago on Reddit, I feel that it's apropos
