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[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 4 points 1 hour ago

And most of us Aussies voted no to recognise the indigenous voice in our constitution. It just never ends.

[–] toppy@lemy.lol 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So now what ? Are the families or descendents of those indigenous australians alive today in australia ? After so many years what kind of compensation will be provided or what kind of justice will be provided ?

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 hours ago

They needed an inquiry?

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 31 points 13 hours ago

The Inquiry:

*Opens a 7th grade social studies class textbook.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

They also found the sky is blue and water is wet. (I know, technically it's not)

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 38 points 19 hours ago (9 children)

They needed an inquiry for this? If the British showed up, they tried to genocide, that’s just what they do

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It’s always been characterized as a police action against “criminals.”

In the US, we declared war against Native Americans, so it’s more obviously a genocide. Murders of aboriginal Australians have always been constructed as police actions.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

My Aussie mate back in England told me that the British killed the First Nations and took their land, like his ancestors just turned up here to find swathes of unoccupied land and were like “crikey, what’s been happening here!” and immediately started doing Acknowledgement Of Country at the start of every office meeting.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I legit do not understand your comment.

My Aussie mate back in England told me that the British killed the First Nations and took their land,

With you this far. Yes your Australian friend (who was in England at the time) told you that the British killed the first nations people and took their land.

like his ancestors just turned up here to find swathes of unoccupied land and were like “crikey, what’s been happening here!” and immediately started doing Acknowledgement Of Country at the start of every office meeting.

Now you're saying your Australian friend was foolish to ideate that his ancestors just turned up in Australia to find swathes of unoccupied land.. and then start making Acknowledgement of Country statements.

First of all - how is this not contradictory to the first part of your analogy? He didn't ideate that.

Second, the Acknowledgement of Country statements didn't start until 200 years after colonisation.. So this is really disingenuous representation you make of your "Aussie mate's" position.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

If his ancestors were Irish and were forced to Australia in the 1850s due to the famine, for example, the comment makes sense

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I think they assume Anglo-Australians separate their own ancestors from the British colonisers.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 92 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

And Tasmanians, and Native Americans, and Indians, and Kenyans, and Irish...

[–] Sheppa@aussie.zone 7 points 5 hours ago

Tasmanians

Tasmania is a state of Australia, all Tasmanian are Australian. Tasmanian Aboriginal peoples are the same as mainland Aboriginal peoples.

Torres Strait Islanders are the other indigenous peoples in Australia.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 25 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There's an Australian Canadian co-production that goes into some of the atrocities the British got into:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuff_the_British_Stole

[–] JuvenoiaAgent@piefed.ca 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's a great podcast. It would be nice if they made more episodes.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 43 minutes ago

And it's not like they're lacking for material hah

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 14 hours ago

Various forms of Gaelic are hardly languages anymore

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago
[–] officermike@lemmy.world 44 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

What's happening behind Pikachu?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 28 points 19 hours ago

Probably the British, sneaking up.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago
[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 29 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

If this inquiry has no power to actually do anything about this finding, I’m not sure I understand the point.

Anyone who ever read a history book already knows about the multiple genocides. The issue is what happens now?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

for the same reason that everyone is entitled to due process even when things are incredibly obvious… it’s important to follow a process, to document formally, etc

[–] toppy@lemy.lol 1 points 3 hours ago

True. This is what I am also thinking ? Everybody knows the colonial powers or imperial powers did lot of atrocities, exploitation. It is there in books.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 19 hours ago

I guess the point would be for everyone involved to say "never again" and if someone quotes Hitler they should not win elections.

And here I thought folks just let the Brits displace them because they're so nice!

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

And the American settlers genocided the native Americans. All the western super-powers are built of slaughter, rape and pillage.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 20 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

My dude, pretty much all countries have been founded by genocidal settlers.

Problem is that some of them can't get past it and keep being genocidal settlers.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

Absolutely true, but the point isn't whataboutism (well, sometimes it is, but it shouldn't be). The point should be admitting and owning our mistakes and doing what we reasonably can to:

a) admit that we did and validate the experience of the people who suffered from it
b) make sure we're not still doing it (way too often we still are, just through subtler means)
c) try to make reparations if we can

Even getting to step 'a' is a big fucking step. Nobody's innocent, but honesty is the foundation on which improvements can be made.

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[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You think other empires weren’t. No slaves in Russia, Persia or china. Rest of the world was peaceful and dainty.

How about the americas pre Columbus. Do you think they were peaceful and had not slaves.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, idk about the Aztecs but the Incas didn't. But regardless, chattel slavery is a purely Western creation and for at least two millennia the European man has been the main source of grief and destruction in the world. Idc if you refute it, I understand why you would, but it's neither productive nor honest.

[–] Sheppa@aussie.zone 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The Inca routinely displaced entire ethnic groups to seed new lands...

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago

Your “I don’t know” and your “I don’t care” pretty much sum up you grasp of history

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