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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 20 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

My dude, pretty much all countries have been founded by genocidal settlers.

Problem is that some of them can't get past it and keep being genocidal settlers.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 41 minutes ago

Exactly.

The problem is those countries were the 19th century colonialist mindset isn "something we fortunately left behind" but instead is alive and well.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago

Absolutely true, but the point isn't whataboutism (well, sometimes it is, but it shouldn't be). The point should be admitting and owning our mistakes and doing what we reasonably can to:

a) admit that we did and validate the experience of the people who suffered from it
b) make sure we're not still doing it (way too often we still are, just through subtler means)
c) try to make reparations if we can

Even getting to step 'a' is a big fucking step. Nobody's innocent, but honesty is the foundation on which improvements can be made.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well, once you've had your country invaded by rabid psychopaths, there's bound to be some gene admixture (to put that far too mildly) and so you've a chance that their descendents, even if it's recessive and rare, will have the desire go on to do the same.

Of course, rabid psychopathy and the urge to invade other places can also come about on its own, but when you look at the way the Vikings and their Germanic cousins invaded western Europe a thousand years or so ago, and then note what happened a few hundred years later, it has to make you wonder whether it might have only happened the once.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

This completely depends on the organisation of society and has nothing to do with genetics. I don't even know what you are going on about.

BTW Germans were also invaded by Asian people multiple times. In fact, the most brutal genocide in history scaled to population size was committed by an Asian dude against mostly Europeans. It's not like some nations were better with this than others. Middle-Eastern people did it just the same as Latins as well as Vikings and North, West and East Asians.