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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 14 points 23 hours ago

Who has less moral character than Trump?

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bout the most cringe worthy thing i have ever heard..

A bunch of card carrying Nazis claiming " Morale suparity "

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lost family over this shit. Like how can I look you in the eyes knowing you voted for literal Nazis? How can you put on your cross necklace and pretend you're a good Christian when you chose hate and malice?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Same way they've always done

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago

At least it was mutable last year. This one ain't looking so hot though.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago

That's a grossly overbroad and self-serving reading. This Supreme Court will be completely fine with it.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Social credit system in China sure pissed off a lot of Americans.

But watch us get it under a different name.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

They’ll just tie it to your credit score and call it the freedom score.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

If moral character was a real issue, Trump would have lost his citizenship long ago. Together with most politicians in Washington DC.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So what are we going to call this social score? That totally isn’t a social score.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For all their huff and bluster about hating communism, repuglicans sure seem willing to adopt the worst parts of it.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. Though I reckon sooner or later, there'll be plenty of white liberals in the camps.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

Sure, take away legal options for people to live their lives. I'm sure that's going to be fine for everyone

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

If only we had the standards for the presidency that we have for newly naturalized citizens.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 193 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump has never had a "deportation" agenda.

What he's had, from the start, is a "send anyone who opposes me to a concentration camp" agenda.

The "deportation" of immigrants was just a cenvenient base from which to start establishing precedents.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Constitution allows for slave labor. Everyone in a camp is gonna be working for free.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeap, that's how the new iPhones will be built in America.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

Trump should be first. He has the tiny fingers for it.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh yeah - absolutely.

That's why even as housing costs get further out of reach for more people, the politicians, at the behest of their wealthy cronies and patrons, are criminalizing homelessness. The goal is to essentially recreate 18th century workhouses.

And you'll count yourself lucky if you get sent to a workhouse instead of a foreign torture prison.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Is it a loophole for presidents too?

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Ok let me just follow along with this.

The trump adim is saying they can revoke citizenship by pointing to anything and claiming "moral character".

What's to stop them from say "circumcision of children is poor noral character" and jist revoke the citizenship of anyone

[–] altasshet@lemmy.ca 9 points 22 hours ago

Nothing. That's kind of the point.

Smells like what SD in Sweden has been harping on with their 'dålig vandel'. They'd love to have the kinds of power Teh Dånald has.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi. “Denaturalization finally does belong to federal district courts – but they are obviously keen on finding every way they can to denaturalize people they think did not deserve to be naturalized.”

But what the administration can do is drag anyone and everyone they want into the courts, where they'll either have to pay for their own attorney or go it alone, jump through hoops, miss work, incur travel expenses, and of course all the fucking stress that goes along with "this is the beginning of my being disappeared to a foreign gulag."

They don't care whether any specific individual is denaturalized. Some percentage will be, for good or bad "reasons." Some will just give up and leave the country. Some will go on the run. Many will succeed in court, retaining their citizenship, as well as a whole lot of paranoia for the rest of their lives.

All of them will suffer from the process. The suffering is the point.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 days ago

And those who win in court… have no guarantee that the federal administration won’t round them up again in the future and put them through the entire process again.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nothing of consequence will happen until he starts deporting white people

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Nah he'll just be deporting the right white people. Fascism starts with tue circle really big. Right now the circle includes new age natural health people, Mormons, and Hispanic men. These will be systematically purged. There always has to be an enemy, and the enemy must always be at the boundary of the in group, so as the in group gets smaller new elements of the in group must be designated as enemies who must be purged out of the in group. We've never seen what happens when they run out of groups but I imagine it will just devolve into "Oh you think you're a REAL American because you're 6'2", blond haired, blue eyed, southern baptist, straight, and are descended from original colonists? Well fuck you you degenerate scum for having a cranial ridge that is too large!"

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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If there’s anything that Trump especially excels at, one talent, one skill, he is the absolute master of, it is his fucking hypocrisy. Like any bully, like any fascist, they will use your own rules to beat you down as they, by definition, are in violation of them. When they violate the rules, they are “strong“. When you violate the rules you are “weak“.

The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

It works because they have no shame. And they have no shame because they are psychopaths.

How fascism is specifically designed to break democracy using its own rules: The Alt-Right Playbook: You Go High, We Go Low

[–] madlian@lemmy.cafe 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi.“

Because they give a shit about federal courts

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Except SCOTUS has just ruled that defendants have to make a legal claim for each and every act enabled by an unconstitutional law. So yeah Trump can do literally anything he likes.

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