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[–] nottelling@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup, was a Garmin. Part of me has been a little worried cause i can't find my way anywhere without GPS anymore, and Google has been getting shittier every day.

Hell, I remember the first time I used maps on a computer to plan and print a route, and the first time I could do it online with MapQuest.

Those were moments that the Internet really felt like the future.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I used to tape maps to the gas tank of my motorcycle on trips.

Then mapquest became useful and I taped printed directions. Made it a lot easier.

Then I got a Garmin waterproof, handlebar mounted GPS and it was glorious, though you had to buy map updates every couple years.

Eventually phones were actually able to be used for directions and I kept a phone connected to a homemade battery pack in my jacket pocket, with an earbud under my helmet, so I just listened to directions and music.

Finally got a phone connected to a handlebar mount, plugged into the bike power, with a Bluetooth headset built into the helmet. Probably the least safe of the options, but I can listen to podcasts, audiobooks, music and see the maps while it directs me with audio, just like a car display would.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I rode from the UK to northern Italy with nothing but an early hiking go's unit that had no map. Just an arrow pointing to Torino. The trip over the Alps was very random.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't mapquest get sued for routing people through a dangerous neighborhood? Then they started putting a disclaimer?

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It tells you which direction something is in, but can't help plot a route to get there.

[–] TechGuy@discuss.online 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still use my Garmin Geko even now. Useful as a basic device recording a track I can geocode photos with, and runs for days on two AAA batteries. In a pinch you can reverse a track and go back the way you came too 😅

[–] afk_strats@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's such a good idea. My camera has to pair with my phone to get GPS readout and it's a nightmare app. Going to look into this

[–] Servais@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Nice device!

[–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still remember printing out google maps directions, then missing one turn and then being completely lost.

[–] Elaine@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

The number of times I had to stop and recalibrate with the paper map was high!

[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I used to geocache this way because I couldn’t afford a GPS. Finding caches took some time!

[–] borf@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 year ago

Internal thought process: "psh, it's not just over-35's who remember the dawn of GPS, I'm only... thirty... six..." 😩

I don't have deeply shocking memories about using GPS for the first time, it was just this gadget my dad got for road trips so we didn't have to deal with an atlas. However, I still remember being a passenger in a moving car using my first smartphone, watching our progress on Google Maps and feeling like I had gained the ability to see around corners. Technological progress seemed unambiguously positive and my phone just kept getting more useful.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. Seemed pretty shiny compared to printing off directions from MapQuest. Then we figured out how to customize the voice, and it was shenanigans from there.

Man, TomTom had some kickass ones. Vader was on mine for too long.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Alternate question: do any of you (maybe a bit older than 35) remember the last time you bought an updated paper map for your area, or one for a road trip? They used to be at most checkout lanes in many stores.

I can already hear the "maps on paper? How could you find anything?"

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe five years ago?

I like having paper maps in the "oh shit" bag

[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I get paper maps of my area. For hiking, but I think it still counts.

The last time I used a paper map for driving? Probably early aughts

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago

I would guess that hiking or trail maps are probably much more detailed than a road map, so that makes sense that it would still be a thing, although certainly digital versions have made some dent in them. Electronics are a bit more susceptible to the environment and the need for power though, so maybe not as much for those reasons.

No, because if I need information I stop at information places at the border and get a map for free. Sometimes you can get whole guidebooks full of maps and directions and interpretive information for free. I picked up maps or guidebooks multiple times this year.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

In 2001, I rented a van in Japan. Digital mapping is essential for Japan, because most streets have no names, and house numbering is almost completely random, often based on the year they were built rather than any linear sequence.

It was incredible to me to be able to punch in a destination and see the map. At the time, I don't think it could speak the directions to you. And you could search for nearby restaurants and gas stations too!

[–] johsny@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Garmin nuvi 250, and then shortly after that a Garmin Nuvi 500, which I still use almost every day when I drive.

Almost 20 years old.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I remember how tedious using maps to get anywhere was.

Last week I traveled through some rural desert backroads and Apple Maps got me there no problem, but it had taken me on an indirect route. As I was driving I discovered that it was because a number of the roads were completely closed. If I had been using maps I would have had to stop and figure out the detours on my own.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago
[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Hertz rent a car on a business trip. It was this little box with a yellow display that would ding when it was time to turn. I thought it was so cool!

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Yes. I remember seeing them advertised on a trip to Japan and not fully understanding how they even worked. It really seemed like the future. It was a few years before they were available here and prices came down enough to use it. My first trip was navigating home from Fry's

I couldn't tell you the specifics, but back in the 1990's, we had GPS devices that just had an LCD read-out of your latitude and longitude, so you could find your position on a paper map. They were on the market as survey devices, but were also useful for wilderness travelers.

It's hard to recall exact dates, because the devices developed incrementally, and navigation mode on Google Maps didn't spring into existence ask at once.

[–] Servais@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

I do, the GPS maps was of course outdated, and brought us to the most random mud trail in the area.

It had potential, but definitely a lot of things to improve.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

My first GPS was an entire laptop sitting in the passenger seat with a card adaptor. Then I upgraded to a PDA (remember those?) with a card adaptor (may have been the same one, I can't remember). Motorcycled over 3000 miles with that setup before smart phones became a thing.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I remember the first time I used one, but not for technically getting anywhere. It was the mid 90s I think, childhood memories are hard to place exactly.

My dad bought a GPS device for work and let me play with it a little. It was an even older model from the late 80s probably. Alphanumeric display only, it couldn't even draw an arrow let alone a map.

I tried to follow the instructions from the manual to make it do something. I remember wanting to navigate to the other end of the back yard. But the manual was all in English and I couldn't figure it out in the end.

[–] leds@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago

Proabably for hiking ...

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

We bought one for a trip and it stopped working halfway through. Never got connection back. Fortunately we wrote down directions as backup.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yep. Borrowed the GPS head unit (Garmin, I think) from my cousin with money for a road trip to SF.

I remember that it worked great until we got to the city itself, then the buildings made it hard to get line of site to 3 satellites. So we ended up printing a bunch of maps from our hotel's business center anyway. But it got us there and made it easier to find gas stations along the way.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. We ended up lost on our hike while using it.

Second time was better, we were geocaching and were able to find quite a few if them. Although it might have been easier to find using points on a map with a compass.

[–] scops@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, but I remember buying my first smartphone (SymbianOS) without a data plan and being terrified that using the GPS function with pre-downloaded maps would accidentally run up a thousand dollar phone bill.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I got completely lost on a highway abroad and Symbian on roaming saved me. And costed a lot in roaming fees.

actually rarely do. Sometimes with google but really I just want the map. Biggest feature to me is downloading a section of map and its annoying they kinda hide it.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I can't remember the exact first trip, where from/to etc, but I do remember when it first dropped and I was sitting in a room with a few friends just looking up places and basically saying "RIP Mapquest lol" for a few minutes, then we probably played xbox or walked to the mall to eat and bum cigarettes off of adults lol.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I used a dedicated, very expensive, handheld unit when on a canoe trip through the backwoods in Ontario in 1997. It was much more expensive and less accurate back then. When the Bush Administration opened the larger military GPS network to public use, things changed in an instant.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah! My parents had a garmin or the like. Mother downloaded some voice pack for it, I forget who it was of. We still had papery maps with us, in case.

On my first smart phone ca. 2014, I had Here Maps (a Nokia product I think?). I didn't have any data plan, and that mapping service didn't require it. I don't think I ever used it, but that may be the first. Otherwise, earlier this year I used my work phone and whatever it has for navigation. I hated it 😅 I clearly liked knowing directions more then one turn out.

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We had a really early one in the 90s, like way earlier than anyone else we knew, in a car we bought from some rich guy. We only used it once or twice as a novelty as my Dad always insisted he knew better. Plus it had its maps loaded up using some CD which was really out of date and it wasn’t like you could type in McDonalds and it would take you to the closest one, you had to put the whole address in and even then I think it wouldn’t find it half the time.

The first one I got was a gift in the 00s and it was bloody awful. Once I t turned me off a perfectly straight road to drive through a graveyard and then put me back on the road I had been on. Another time it turned me off and sent me down the only toll-road in the UK, then got me off at the first exit and put me back on the toll-road in the opposite direction to get me off at the place I’d got into it earlier. I had to pay twice to go nowhere and it added five minutes to my journey.

Just to add, when people came round our house in the late 90s my Dad would make me turn on the computer to show them MS Autoroute, which was an offline piece of software that was used to generate routes, basically what Google Maps does now with directions, but it would just give you something to print out. Really useful for the day and you could even get it to estimate how much the fuel would cost, etc.

[–] Elaine@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, well I didn’t use it but my brother in law had one. It was a Trimble I think. I remember it was a big, heavy boxy thing. We used it when we were out in the desert probably around ‘92.

[–] beaiouns@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it was a USB dongle, I think Garmin made it, and it was a huge pain to set up. Power inverter into the car charger, laptop into the power inverter, Garmin dongle into the laptop, load up the software and wait like 10 minutes for it to triangulate itself with glonass or whatever other satellite options were in there. After that it worked pretty well, but most of the time I could get to where I wanted to go before it could figure out where I was.

The original Droid was the first one I had that really impressed me, basically because of how much nicer it was than that previous experience. Now I just had to pull out my phone and launch the app, and it was accurate to within a few feet instead of a few meters! Still took them a few years to update Google maps with a lot of the new subdivisions in the area, but for a novelty navigator it was pretty cool.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 1 year ago

I did pizza delivery for years without GPS.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yup.

Was playing Santa, going around to the patients of the home health company I worked for at the time. We were in the boss's car and she had a dedicated GPS device. Can't recall which brand.

But it's easy to get lost in the more remote sections of the tri-county area, even with GPS.

Before GPS became ubiquitous on phones, the grunt labor for home health had to rely on mapquest and such to get to the right area, and prayer to find a specific home.

There were some of us that knew the area well, and we'd get calls from the office asking for directions to places that weren't mapped right. And that would be while we were working, or even at weird hours.

I was one of the last people I knew to have a cell phone at all, largely because I refuse to be at anyone's beck and call. But the boss actually got a phone and paid me to carry it just for directions. We got along unusually well, but it was still a very aggressive negotiation on when I would answer the damn thing.

Anyway, yeah, that winter I played Santa the first time was the first time I used a GPS device. I was driving, and could have found most of the places without one, but it was nice to not have to be constantly on the lookout for that one tree that made a driveway almost invisible, or remember exactly which curve you'd come around and have to turn off a paved road that you could barely see even if the road had been straight.

No, because printing directions off the internet from mapquest etc. has been around almost forever, and although I used GPS a lot to measure positions I never had a smartphone until quite late (2010 I think), so by the time I used GPS to get somewhere no part of it was special or new.