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[–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 97 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Too damn much for the value it creates.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

AI slop poisoning is value too. The more everything is poisoned by it, the less useful things trained on new data are. The poison spreads in many ways, it's not something that can be removed.

It's important for prevention of totalitarianism driven by such technologies in the future.

So I honestly hope it kills the bullshit web and we'll be back to small communities based on personal ties, where the person making the rules is the webmaster you know, not an anonymous moderator or a bot. That's killing two birds with one stone, no downsides whatsoever.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The oil industry must be so giddy to have found a new scape goat out of nowhere.

Datacenters take a lot of energy because they serve a lot of people. The impact can be lessened with a proper grid centered around renewable.

There are actual things that are fucking up the planet, individuals using AI, gaming or having a Google account aren't the actual issue.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Data center demand has created huge backlog of gas turbine orders. They're not planning on renewables for the next big expansion

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago

You are correct that renewable energy would help but if huge amounts of power are specifically being drawn for AI data centers that is part of the equation. Just like it's reduce/reuse/recycle in that order for handling items, it should be reduce/renewable for power, and we should have to build the renewable infrastructure before building more data centers.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago

An unholy amount.

An amount guaranteed to spike climate targets a decade early.

Stoopid much.

[–] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ai is destroying our planet. Stop fucking using it.

[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I read somewhere recently that AI data center open loop water cooling systems drain 100 million liters of freshwater a day and evaporate it away.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Would you mind sharing where you read that?

[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 months ago

This isn't the article I read but it has tons of info about this:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2025-ai-impacts-data-centers-water-data/

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Butler was (will be?) right!

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Replace the CEOs with ai or fuck off

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trying to force the singularity, I see

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No I just wanna see the CEO class reap what they’ve sown.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could you imagine getting fired by your AI CEO because it hallucinated your name into an AI-generated post mortem of a crash caused by AI-generated code

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] TwistedCister@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

After I put in my notice at a previous employer I was explicitly told by management at the end of the day to not return to work out my notice, my resignation was accepted immediately.

When I did not come in to work the next day I was fired for a “no call, no show.” It was just one more way to fuck me over on the way out the door.

If I had the time, resources, and knowledge I could have had a legal case but I was just thankful to be leaving such a toxic hellhole.

The best revenge is living well and then struggling to remember the names of those assholes.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A problem is that the information is not in the hands of the company selling the AI. The actual hardware is often owned by service providers and independent data centers.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They know exactly what the power consumption of that hardware is though. This isnt tough to figure out just because you use a cloud provider

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which means it uses a crazy amount.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

When Microsoft is buying nuclear power plants, what could go wrong!?

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So much that now they want to turn nuclear reactors back on. Not because it’s green energy but because it’s free energy for them

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It's not free, but it's the good part nonetheless - nuclear energy and thus increase in people trained to operate and build nuclear reactors.

Nuclear energy is, planning-wise, very high quality, you have a lot of control in scaling the output.

That allows, together with lots of accumulators of various kinds (pumping water up and such), to actually make renewables with uncontrollable output useful.

Making the average cost of energy better than just that of nuclear.

So, when Microsoft dies, those reactors and people will be of value.