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Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 1 points 1 minute ago

I bought my most expensive dream machine last year (when the RTX-4090 was still the best) and I am proud of it. I hope it'll be my right for at least 10 years.

But it was expensive.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

It's just because I'm not impressed, like the raster performance bump for 1440p was just not worth the price jump at all. On top of that they have manufacturing issues and issues with their stupid 12 pin connector? And all the shit on the business side not providing drivers to reviewers etc. Fuuucccckk all that man. I'm waiting until AMD gets a little better with ray tracing and switching to team red.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

I stopped maintaining a AAA-capable rig in 2016. I've been playing indies since and haven't felt left out whatsoever.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 10 points 4 hours ago

I am tired of be treated like a fool. No more money for them.

[–] localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

Bought a 5700xt on release for £400, ran that til last year when the 7900gre released in the UK. Can't remember what I paid but it was a lot less than the flagship 7900 and I forsee lasting many years as I have no desire to go above 2K.

AMD GPUs have been pretty great value compared to nvidia recently as long as you're not tying your self worth to your average FPS figures.

[–] simple@piefed.social 24 points 7 hours ago

Unfortunately gamers aren't the real target audience for new GPUs, it's AI bros. Even if nobody buys a 4090/5090 for gaming, they're always out of stock as LLM enthusiasts and small companies use them for AI.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I bought a 3070 for far more than I should've back when that was new, and I don't plan to make that mistake twice. This GPU is likely going to be staying in this PC til it croaks. Never felt the need for anything more powerful anyway, it runs everything I need it to on high settings.

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

Same I got a 3080 12G a few months after release for $1k from EVGA and it's the most I've ever spent on a computer part. Next upgrade is def gonna be in the 600-700 range, not making that mistake again.

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

GTX 1060 6Gb still going strong!

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

That was a beautiful card, bought to use with vr, my gf is still rockin that system

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus christ man. I thought I was slumming it with a 3070.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

hahahahahahahaha.

rx580

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

My new gpu was a steam deck.

[–] Aralakh@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Heck yes, made more sense to buy a steam deck than upgrade my PC.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

I had lost all interest in games for a while. Desktop just ended up with me tinkering in the homelab. Steam deck has been so great to fall in love with gaming again.

[–] bluesheep@lemm.ee 37 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Paying Bills Takes Priority Over Chasing NVIDIA’s RTX 5090

Yeah no shit, what a weird fucking take

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 7 hours ago

But why spend to ""eat food"" when you can have RAYTRACING!!!2

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Rimworld doesn't need a new gpu

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

i wish i could remember how i got it to run on apple silicon last time because i can't do it now

[–] knightly@pawb.social 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

What it needs is a new multi-threaded engine so I can actually use all these extra cores. XD

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like version 1.6 is supposed to get multithreading.

[–] coacoamelky@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

In the US, a new RTX 5090 currently costs $2899 at NewEgg, and has a max power draw of 575 watts.

(Lowest price I can find)

... That is a GPU, with roughly the cost and power usage of an entire, quite high end, gaming PC from 5 years ago... or even just a reasonably high end PC from right now.

...

The entire move to the realtime raytracing paradigm, which has enabled AAA game devs to get very sloppy with development by not really bothering to optimize any lighting, nor textures... which has necessitated the invention of intelligent temporal frame upscaling, and frame generation... the whole, originally advertised point of this all was to make hi fidelity 4k gaming an affordable reality.

This reality is a farce.

...

Meanwhile, if you jump down to 1440p, well, I've got a future build plan sitting in a NewEgg wishlist right now.

RX 9070 (220 W) + Minisforum BD795i SE (mobo + non removeable, high end AMD laptop CPU with performance comparable to a 9900X, but about half the wattage draw) ... so far my pretax total for the whole build is under $1500, and, while I need to double and triple check this, I think the math on the power draw works out to a 650 Watt power supply being all you'd need... potentially with enough room to also add in some extra internal HDD storage drives, ie, you've got leftover wattage headroom.

If you want to go a bit over the $1500 mark, you could fit this all in a console sized ITX case.

That is almost half the cost as the RTX 5090 alone, and will get you over 90fps in almost all modern games, with ultra settings at 1440p, though you will have to futz around with intelligent upscaling and frame gen if you want realtime raytracing as well with similar framerates, and realistically, probably wait another quarter or two for AMD driver support and FSR 4 to become a bit more mature and properly implemented in said games.

Or you could swap out for a maybe a 5070 (non TI, the TI is $1000 more) Nvidia card, but seeing as I'm making a linux gaming pc, you know, for the performance boost from not running Windows, AMD mesa drivers are where you wanna be.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Saved up for a couple of years and built the best (consumer grade) non nvidia PC I could, 9070XT, 9950X3D, 64gig of RAM. Pretty much top end everything that isn't Nvidia or just spamming redundant RAM for no reason. The whole thing still costs less than a single RTX 5090 and on average draws less power too.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

And then to stick it to the man further you're running Linux of course, right?

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep, thats gonna be significantly more powerful than my planned build... and likely somewhere between 500 to 1000 more expensive... but yep, that is how absurd this is, that all of that is still less expensive than a 5090 RTX.

I'm guessing you could get all of that to work with a 750 W PSU, 850 W if you also want to have a bunch of storage drives or a lot of cooling, but yeah, you'd only need that full wattage for running raytracing in 4k.

Does that sound about right?

Eitherway... yeah... imagine an alternate timeline where marketing and industry direction isn't bullshit, where people actually admit things like:

Consoles cannot really do what they claim to do at 4K... at actual 4K.

They use checkerboard upscaling, so basically they're actually running at 2K and scaling up, and its actually less than 2K in demanding raytraced games, because they're actually using FSR or DLSS as well, oh and the base graphics settings are a mix of what PC gamers would call medium and high, but they don't show console gamers real graphics settings menus, so they don't know that.

Maybe, maybe we could have tried to focus on just perfecting frame per watt and frame per $ efficiency at 2K instead of baffling us with marketing bs and claiming we can just leapfrog to 4K, and more recently, telling people 8K displays make any goddamned sense at all, when in 95% of home setup situations, of any kind, they have no physically possible perceptible gains.

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[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 79 points 16 hours ago (10 children)

When did it just become expected that everybody would upgrade GPU’s every year and that’s suppose to be normal? I don’t understand people upgraded phones every year either. Both of those things are high cost for minimal gains between years. You really need 3+ years for any meaningful gains. Especially over the last few years.

[–] qweertz@programming.dev 2 points 6 hours ago

Still rocking a GTX 1070 and I plan on using my Graphene OS Pixel 8 Pro till 2030 (only bought it (used ofc) bc my Huawei Mate 20 Pro died on my in October last year 😔)

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Sticking with 1440p on desktop has gone very well for me. 2160p isn't worth the costs in money or perf.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 41 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

It doesn't help that the gains have been smaller, and the prices higher.

I've got a RX 6800 I bought in 2020, and nothing but the 5090 is a significant upgrade, and I'm sure as fuck not paying that kind of money for a video card.

[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

I have a 6700xt and 5700x and my pc can do vr and play star citizen, they are the most demanding things I do on my pc, why should I spend almost £1000 to get a 5070 or 9070 and an am5 board+processor?

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 hours ago

I just picked up a used RX 6800 XT after doing some research and comparing prices.

The fact that a gpu this old can outperform or match most newer cards at a fraction of the price is insane, but I'm very happy with my purchase. Solid upgrade from my 1070 Ti

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[–] coacoamelky@lemm.ee 110 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The good games don't need a high end GPU.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 12 points 13 hours ago

Terraria minimum specs: "don't worry bro"

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm rocking a GTX 1660 and have no plans to upgrade. Ray-tracing is a scam and all the "AAA" titles that are too vram hungry for my card are not that attractive anyway.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

980gt.
Though, due to circumstances, I've not played any games in about a year.
Before that I only really played Rocket League in the few years preceding. So if that still going when I do have time to play them I'll still be fine with my old GPU.

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