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I looked all over for a date and got everything from "early 1800s" to "late 1800s" but nothing exact, so I had to make an educated guess. The first cameras practical enough to take such a photo were developed around 1840 and the excavations began in 1867.
Damn, this really puts into perspective for me that the sphinx was once in the center of a thriving and powerful civilization that completely died. All of that sand accumulated over thousands of years wiping out every trace of the world that used to be there and we only have evidence for it in the handful of mega structures they managed to build in an ocean of nature identical to any other undeveloped part of earth.
I met a traveler from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Fun fact: Shelley wrote that poem in a friendly competition with Horace Smith. Here is Smith's version:
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
The wonders of my hand."— The City's gone,—
Naught but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.
We wonder — and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
— Horace Smith, "Ozymandias"
That is beautiful as well!
I kinda like it better since it makes the same criticism of people who think their works will last forever, but then goes a step further and exposes the same fallacy in modern peoples.
Born too late to discover ancient ruins.
Born too early to discover urban ruins.
Born just in time to watch the world die.
Imagine being an early explorer and being one of the first people to see it since the fall of the Egypt. I don't know how close they were to populated settlements, but just... imagine finding a structure no one has seen in hundreds, possibly thousands of years. It'd make the imagination go wild.
They are still discovering ancient ruins all the time. In fact, Lidar makes it easier.
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20230704-ocomtn-a-long-lost-maya-city-that-was-just-discovered
i was getting ready for forty winks
when, lo, up popped this post on the Sphinx;
that ensued in a long stroll
down the wikipedia rabbithole
and a whole host of now-purple hyperlinks.
Fantastic find!
Thanks. I'm really annoyed I can't accurately date it though.
Why didn't you just look at the metadata? It appears this photo was taken in the year "© All Rights Reserved"
Big "It appears you have internet network connectivity problems" energy
I felt that copyrighting it in the year nothing might have been a typo.
Also, there's absolutely no question that it's public domain.
Also, there's absolutely no question that it's public domain.
AfaIk, this depends on whether we know the photographer. If the author of a work is unknown, it is deemed to be orphaned. In some countries, this may lead to problems when using the work.
Which country would not recognize a 19th century photo as public domain? Because the Berne Convention, which most countries are signatories to, would absolutely make it public domain.
If the author is unknown because for example the author was deliberately anonymous or worked under a pseudonym, the Convention provides for a term of 50 years after publication ("after the work has been lawfully made available to the public"). However, if the identity of the author becomes known, the copyright term for known authors (50 years after death) applies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention
I didn't know the information of that section. As it's very very unlikely that the author of a 19th century photo is dead for less than 50 years, the uncertainty of someone claiming the copyright is close to zero.
A good year for art it was.
A not very trustworthy looking hungarian website says 1890
Maybe, between two excavations, the wind has partly filled up the cavity of the previous excavation with sand and thus, the progress wasn't continuous.
This is supposedly from 1867 - 1878:
Wikimedia Commons
I find it a bit amusing that the sepia toning effectively colourised the image.
I thought it was a scifi spaceship at first
Couldn't find the date?
Did you check the EXIF data?
I too was trying to find the date of this photo this week. To narrow your time span, the first aerial photograph (also from a balloon) was taken in 1858 in France. So this photo had to have been taken after that point.
Fits-sits rule.
Is it just a fabrication that Germans in WWII shot off the nose, then? Because it looks as if it's already missing the nose here.
As far as I know, that is a myth. It fell off in antiquity.
Allegedly, it happened around 50 B.C.
Crazy that we're closer to Asterix's time than they were to when the Sphinx was built.
Cocaine or a Michael Jackson thing?
It's true. Hitler wanted to move the Sphinx to his base on the other side of the moon. Of course, moving the whole thing would be too difficult, so they only took the nose.
Hah.
Just in case, though, I'll clarify: what I'd heard was that, when the German army was in Egypt in WWII, some German soldiers used the nose for target practice and pulverized it. No aliens required.
Edit: I'm remembering the story wrong: the target practice thing is attributed to Napoleon's troops using the nose as target practice for cannon. It'd unsubstantiated in either case; it turns out no one alive really knows.
The Germans never got even close to where the sphinx is located in WW2. The Allied stopped the Axis advance in North Africa hundreds of kilometres west of there.
Why on earth would they need to excavate a balloon?
I can't find a date.
Have you tried tinder?
There's a hole in its head
Black as your soul
I'd rather die than give you control
From a quick glance the pic looks a bit like the sand cruiser they used to throw Luke into the sarlacc pit.
Is it weird that I love this photo a lot more than I feel anything at all for the statue itself?
