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[–] Iunnrais@lemm.ee 63 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In D&D, the standard assumption is that elves mature just as fast as humans, but they are culturally treated as children until around hundred or just a bit higher. But I’ve started developing a campaign setting where elves really are the equivalent of kids until that age, and all the implications of that. One of which is that, if humans attended school alongside elven kids, they’re going to lose their reputation of mystique and wisdom— they’re going to be viewed as kinda slow and dimwitted, as the humans graduate through the grades and the elevens get held back a decade or so.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I read that and then imagined it was a lecture by some sort of an insect, likely an ant-type, wearing a monocle and a top hat.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Imagine having that smart-arse teenager be that annoying for like, a few decades.

Or just... the emotionality that comes with hormones. Although one would imagine since elves do end up being more wise and whatnot, that they sort of start gathering more wisdom even though it's slower to start with. As in, they'd be horny like a teenager for a decade or two, but they'd learn to somewhat manage it after the first five years.

[–] SurfinBird@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Where does this math come from?

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nah, it checks out. I ran the numbers myself and I got 15.33, which is roughly 15. This, of course, assumes the age of adulthood is 21 for humans and 100 for elves, and we don't really have a reason to doubt those numbers.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why would we assume that you have to be 21 years old or the equivalent to drink alcohol in a medieval fantasy world?

There are still many parts of the modern world that allow 16 year olds to drink.

And even in the medieval time period of Europe, pretty much everyone would drink alcohol because it was cleaner than water, although younger people would tend to drink "small beers" that had very light alcohol.

My assumption would be that in this time frame, if the bartender judged you competent and capable of drinking, they would sell you alcohol.

If they didn't, they wouldn't, and the only consequence would be that you're on your own in dealing with the effects of alcohol on you.

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The dwarf is in a hoodie and holding a phone. Why do you think this is medieval fantasy?

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

because of the background and helmet, and the elfs clothing.

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Those helmets were never worn outside of ceremonies, and those clothes are more victorian than medieval. And while the background does look olden style, there's no reason a place can't still look like that in the modern day.

There's more to say this isn't medieval than to say that it is.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You are such a medieval wench though.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

My entire apartment looks like the later episodes of serial experiment lain.

[–] enerhpozyks@eldritch.cafe 9 points 10 months ago

Don't need to go in medieval time. By my parents time, adults gave "colored water" to help keep children calm at school. And the "colored" part is wine.

Also, 21 for adulthood is very american, it's lower in most part of the world. And idk for the rest of the world, but it was also even younger in medieval europe than in modern europe as there was no concept of "teenager" for common folks.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Others have doubted the 21 year figure being appropriate for humans but I think the 100 year figure is ridiculous for elves. It’s based on the assumption that age of maturity and total lifespan are always preserved in an exact ratio across different species, when this is demonstrably not the case.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does it matter? If we used maturity as a measure, I would still be unable to drink.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m talking about physical maturity, not emotional maturity (which is greatly influenced by environment).

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago

Im that case, should have been drinking at 14, because I'm as hairy as a chimp.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whats's even funnier is that Pathfinder 2e has an "Ancient Elf" heritage, and the guidelines state that it's at least 100 years old

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it’s one of those things where they don’t want you playing a 16 year old elf because reasons.

Just like how you need to use fantasy names rather than normal names like Steve or Tiffany.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who is "they" in this situation? Because in PF2E, nothing is really stopping you from playing a 16 year old Seer Elf apart from the rest of the table possibly looking at you funny

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

They being the culture. Hence the funny looks!

[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Solving percents. I use this to predict gross and net of my paychecks when I do my budget.

Net               X
------    =    ------
Gross            100


(GrossX) = (Net × 100)

GrossX ÷ (Net × 100) = X

Example;

200             X
------    =   -------
250            100

Step A
200 × 100 = 20000

Now 250X = 20000

Step B
20000÷250=80

Therefore X=80
Also expressed as 80% of 250 = 200.

It's also kinda handy when figuring out sales and stuff at the store, sometimes.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I guess the 21 being equivalent to 100 years is just an assumption

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

it's a generally accepted assumption in many post-Tolkien fantasy works.

[–] Jeeve65@ttrpg.network 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gennerelly accepted where ?

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In the USA probably because it's their drinking age

[–] Jeeve65@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I get the 21 , but I'm not clear about the 100.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

before the Internet killed my attention span, I used to read a lot of science fiction and fantasy novels by a variety of authors. Since then, I've watched a lot of anime and read a lot of amateur writing. I don't have specific sources to cite, but the trope is common enough and recurring enough that I stand by my claim of "generally accepted".

[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

if 100 is the age of adulthood then it is equivalent to 18 in human years

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

close enough

[–] Tall_Chilchuck@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which kinda makes the math meaningless cause 73 < 100 requires no calculation.

[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

only if you assume the drinking age is 21 or the equivalent. An assumption that is true for a small percentage of population of the world for a small fraction of human history

[–] Tall_Chilchuck@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

only if you assume the drinking age is 21 or the equivalent.

Which is exactly what the character is doing

[–] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

No the character just confirms that an equivalent age of 15 is too young. 21 is just the baseline age they use to do the calculation, because it lines up with 100 years in elf years. But the bartender wouldnt have to do the second part of the calculation at all if the drinking age is 21. It could easily be 16 or 17 and the elf would still be too young.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] prowe45@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago

This is the elFBI, open up!

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago

Meanwhile, her ~~mother~~ grandmother: