I remember hearing how Truman had a "the buck stops here" sign on his desk. One is very hard pressed to find that kind of accountability and ownership anywhere in today's world, especially among executive leadership, be it corporate or political.
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Yeah, but he was old and didn't rape anyone or commit any felonies, and that just isn't acceptable in America.
FTFY: Remember when the president didn't get into schoolgirls ~~spats~~?
I mean, Epstein...
Man I thought you were going a different direction with that, but I'm pretty sure it's all of them.
I've only lived through Bush, Obama, Biden, and Trump so I cant relate.
Non American here, but the both sides schtick really really doesn't apply to Obama or Biden here. Definitely not internationally at least. And likely not domestically either.
Isn't it tiring to always be trying to apply that bullshit mental gymnastics to the democrats? We have a phrase for this in Spanish, "pena ajena". It means I feel embarrassed for you. That's the exact vibe for this.
They try to apply it to Biden because he acts a little weird around kids. The worst was when he appeared to be sniffing a young girl. It was weird for sure but I've known a lot of elderly to do it. Apparently after a certain age it's common for young kids to smell really good to the elderly.
Obama really doesn't have any kind of scandals. After Clinton and Bush it was quite refreshing to not hear much of anything about our president.
Apparently after a certain age it's common for young kids to smell really good to the elderly.
You can certainly argue that the over-familiarity and inappropriateness are Biden's particular innocent character quirks. But I don't think these are common among the elderly.
Ive never seen Bernie Sanders do that and I've certainly never personally seen any elderly people do that irl. Also Obama was a war criminal and despite having a Congressional majority did almost nothing with it.
The hell do you mean? Obama was a war criminal and Biden funded genocide. This concept may be foreign to you since you probrally live in a country witha proper left wing party but thats not America. In America the two parties are almost identical except one looks pretty. They're both ran by Capitalists who take turns extorting and profiting off the backs of the working class and the exploitation of the global south. So maybe don't make sweeping comments like that about a country you clearly dont understand.
I live in America just not in the USA any more. Every POTUS has been a war criminal. And maybe try to understand the context of the post before commenting. You don't know anything about me so maybe don't pretend to know things you clearly don't have any clue about
No, im not old enough to remember the Carter administration.
Not yo say he was good. He did some horrid shit, but he's the one us president I'd be genuinely shocked to find was a pedophile.
It would be odd for most to be pedophiles because sexual attraction to children is incredibly uncommon.
uncommon
I fucking wish. It's an epidemic. Especially in positions of authority and wealth. Not sure what that correlation implies, but it exists.
Yeah you might want to look into academic sources on this because the media likes to imply this is widespread when it simply isn't.
I dont pay much attention to that, my personal experience suggests it very strongly.
I've never witnessed a man beating on his on girlfriend/wife, so domestic violence isn't real
Im the one arguing they are pedophiles.
Because i have seen them be pedophiles at me, back when that was possible. Im fine (or, at least mostly avoided that hazard), but have literally seen it happen!
And i was a pretty slippery kid, so odds are they got more than a few others. Im pretty sure i met some of them; the victims, but im not going to discuss that.
What's more pertinent: not one of them was ever prosecuted. So you wouldn't see it.
Ok then you are entirely incorrect in your perspective and you should actually look at facts as your personal experience isn’t a good source in this case.
Ive met more than i would like to. Most of them when i was a child. I met other convicted pedos, knew em pretty well.
I dont know that i could identify them now as an old lady, but looking back, apmost every single one had pedo vibes; at least a few asked openly.
None of the names i recognize have ever been prosecuted. Because theyre rich.
Vibes are never a good source when it cones to sorting data but at least youcan narrow down why you are getting it wrong.
There is no good data source. If you run by prosecutions, laws do not apply to the wealthy.
I've met a lot of rich assholes, and all if them acted like pedos. More than one tried to groom me.
More than not acted like pedophiles.
I know an old guy who groomed a 17 year old from a student group he volunteered with, and right as she's 18 and graduating she's moving in with him. We didn't have grooming laws six months ago but we do now. Still doesn't apply. He "did nothing wrong" . Not all child predators are convicted.
Moat aren't. It's basically approved in our society.
There are good sources your vibes/feelings/emotions just are not good sources (this is true for everyone).
I don’t think you can just tell if someone is a pedophile.
You should seek help if you aren’t already if you were really groomed.
Sorry, did you both try to discredit me as a broken victim and tell me im wrong in the same post?
Why do you care so much about the reputations of the ultra wealthy? They're not gonna fuck you, bro; you're too old for them.
You made a lot of claims that have nothing to back them other than vibes. Im not discrediting you because you never had credibility in this regard. You are wrong about your assertion that most rich people are pedos.
You have claimed to be a victim if abuse and you are asserting factually incorrect and irrational views regarding tens of millions of people. Do you think that is indicative of someone who has a healthy perspective?
I have literal first hand experiences of the ultra wealthy hitting on me when i was a literal fucking child. Some of them were subtler, and im pretty confident, and its in the realm of vibes, but a couple definitely were not fucking subtle about it.
The wealthy are all pedophiles. What evidence do you have to the contrary?
You potentially have an experience with a singular person and you are using that to decide wealth was the motivating factor and are using it to call all wealthy people pedos.
I don’t need counter evidence when the initial claim is this clownish.
I've very much enjoyed the company of a person who turned out to be a pedophile before, and im much too old for them to be of particular danger to me anymore.
I wouldnt write them off as a friend for that, just like i wouldnt write them off for being a serial killer, or someone who wears socks with sandals.
The wealthy, however; i absolutely would.
I mean, it was only like 6 months ago lol
Though it feels like 60 years.
I honestly can't remember... Isn't every proxy war just this but with guns and the blood of brown people?
No, sometimes they are from East Asian countries.
Poor white people too, gotta keep those recruitment numbers up somehow. Promise the world and hope they die so you don't have to pay out.
Poverty draft! Fuck yeah!
Ofc he did, don’t you remember Obama writing diss tracks about Osama
Public spats you mean..100% chance every us president has done this, you just never saw the.
It sounds like you mean "private" ones then:-)
Pepperidge Farms apparently has a very very long memory.
For the moment, I reserve the right to withhold criticism. The situation is just too damn funny.
There's a reason it's called political theater.
Real presidents had Lee Atwater and Roger Stone and Steve Bannon to do that shit for them. Can't believe Trump and Elon are being dragged down into the hoi paloi. Disgraceful.
We need to get back to a more respectable era of politics, like we had under Strom Thurmond and Barry Goldwater.
are you new to the concept of politics? bullshit arguments with bullshit people is most of it
I hate narcissists. The government should have mandatory evaluations to find out who has NPD, and put anyone who fails the evaluation to death. Then we wouldn't have these Trump problems.