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I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in Account Settings or using this page.

Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/ (Might have to clear cache)

Can also read about the changes here: https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/

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[–] Selfhoster1728@infosec.pub 14 points 7 months ago (36 children)

I don't know why everyone in the selfhosting community still even mentions Plex or uses it.

It's closed source, not free; Jellyfin is a no brainer yet people still go to Plex??

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The sunken cost of buying a plexpass on sale for 39 dollars 15 years ago.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 7 months ago

I bought a Plex pass for 90 or something. I officially dropped Plex about 4 months ago now. For 90 bucks I got something like 8 years out of it. I'll call that a win, I don't feel like I wasted my money, I don't feel like I overpayed. Just moving on now.

[–] JGrffn@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I host a Plex server for close to 70 friends and family members, from multiple parts of the world. I have over 60TBs of movies, tv shows, anime, anime movies, and flac music, and everyone can connect directly to my server via my reverse proxy and my public IPs. This works on their phones, their tvs, their tablets and PCs. I have people of all ages using my server, from very young kids to very old grandparents of friends. I have friends who share their accounts with their families, meaning I probably have already hit 100+ people using my server. Everyone is able to request whatever they want through overseerr with their Plex account, and everything shows up pretty instantly as soon as it is found and downloaded. It works almost flawlessly, whether locally or remotely, from anywhere in the world. I myself don't even reside in the same home that my Plex server resides. I paid for my lifetime pass over 10 years ago.

Can you guarantee that I can move over to jellyfin and that every single person currently using my Plex server will continue having the same level of experience and quality of life that they're having with my Plex server currently? Because if you can't, you just answered your own question. Sometimes we self host things for ourselves and we can deal with some pains, but sometimes we require something that works for more people than just us, and that's when we have to make compromises. Plex is not perfect, and is actively becoming enshittified, but I can't simply dump it and replace it with something very much meant for local or single person use rather than actively serving tens to hundreds of people off a server built with OTC components.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

"still even mentions plex"

I've been using plex for a LONG time, and bought a lifetime plexpass 12 years ago. I'm pretty sure I haven't started a thread on Lemmy regarding Plex, but I'm sure I'm not alone as a LONG TIME user. Plex just works for me and cost me $75 in 2013. Right now I've got no pressing reason to switch.

If they remove my plexpass features, or start showing me ads / making my user experience worse, then I'll probably look to change, and won't participate in these awful 'plex' posts.

P.S. we should encourage as much new content on Lemmy as possible if you ask me.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Same with me, 12 years, about $70, and it still works just as well as ever. I turn off any new features I don't want, my friends and family can still stream from me for free since I have plex pass already, and it's easy to share without having to pass around my IP address.

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[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Jellyfin is hardly a no-brainer. I set it up out of curiosity a few weeks ago and my first question was how do I give access to my friends and family. So I searched, and all of the results were talking about setting up a VPN or a reverse proxy or whatever. Man, I just want to tell my mom "install this app on your tv and log in", which is exactly what Plex does.

I get that Plex is enshittifying, but pretending Jellyfin is a drop-in replacement is delusional.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Jellyfin is a no-brainer. Publishing services on the Internet is complex.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If they adhered to somewhat modern security principles for their Backend I wouldn't mind hosting it behind a reverse proxy. But since large parts of the API is unauthorized and unprotected, I wont.

And I do not plan on supporting family and friends in setting up vpns on all of their devices

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 7 months ago

I would switch in a heartbeat if Jellyfin didn't... kinda suck, honestly.

But the difference in usability is enough that it's just not an option.

For the record, I updated Plex today and I haven't seen a notification like this anywhere, although that text snippet does match their privacy policy ad data opt-in settings blurb that has been in place for a while. I may need a bit more context here.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

My TV doesn't have a Jellyfin app, only a Plex app. I'm not buying a new TV just to use my preferred media server, sadly :-(

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[–] fargeol@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] applemao@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Every day of my life trying to explain to friends they need to quit using spoon fed software. Sigh.

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[–] Soliae@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Jellyfin is the way. Costs nothing other than the hardware needed and nobody is selling anything about you.

Our personal streaming library with Jellyfin is bigger than any public service and we can add to it from VHS, DVD, Blueray, though extra equipment was required for the VHS/Blueray.

It’s also available anywhere we go and we can set up separate accounts for different family members. There’s even a phone app.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How big is that library supposed to be that it is larger than all public ones? There are some with 10'000s of videos.

[–] Soliae@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

We have over 15,000 videos in TV episodes, alone. Not counting movies.

So…yeah.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners

That is a honey pot rights holders will be falling over themselves to pay Plex for access to once they hear about it.

Been telling anyone that would listen that they need to get out of Plex since they implemented that first iteration of trying to require you to sign into your own self hosted server with a Plex.tv account. They were telegraphing what direction they were going in with that kind of user hostile move.

Lots of responses about how it was easy to get around so no big deal (or worse that they liked it for some coping mechanism reason) and that nothing else was as easy and feature rich as Plex so it was worth it.

Well now a few years down the road from that they are now going to use that beach head on everyone's Plex server they can to collect what is being watched and sell it to the highest bidder.

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Me eating 🍿 and reading the comments of Plex users arguing with Jellyfin users, while myself being a user of Kodi which has it's own problems..

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Seeing the replies in this thread it kinda makes me wonder what Plex actually has to do for these zealots to quit using their platform.

Like do they literally have to steal naked pictures of you and pass them around the office? Like wtf.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Selling IP address info. Huh.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago

Aww come on guys, my JF boner can only handle so much /s

Seriously though, why did they even give you the option to disagree, you know they're just going to force it 3-6 months.

[–] insight06@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

For those who aren't quite ready to delete their accounts get, this link buried on their privacy page can let you opt out: https://www.plex.tv/vendors-us

Not sure why "us" is in the URL, I'm in Canada

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Just downloaded Jellyfin! Been a Plex user for years. Noticed they’ve stated to add a lot of crap to the Plex interface. I just want to stream my media library. I’m a little disappointed that Jellyfin doesn’t have a native Apple TV app, but SenPlayer looks really nice and their price model is a one time fee. So no subscriptions!

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

"enshittification wont happen to my software of choice"

hahahaha... those ppl with discord, iphones, windows,plex....they wont learn.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’ve had a lifetime plex pass for several years. Once I tried Jellyfin a few months ago it was all over. My “I’ll run both just in case” period lasted a week or two.

The downside is that Jellyfin will take more setup on your end, especially if you want to let other people connect securely to your server.

The upside is performance and responsiveness. Once I started using it I decided Plex had to go, even if I have to drive to each family member’s house to fix their shit. It was like moving between Linux and Windows, as far as one being designed to work and the other being designed to satisfy dozens of corporate KPIs.

Fortunately the setup for the end user is just as simple once your server is good to go. They just need URL, login, and password.

And since it’s all open source, there’s some fun diversity in clients. I use Finamp specifically for music, and there are audiobook focused ones.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, poor Jellyfin just quietly doing the job.

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[–] rfr_Foglia@feddit.it 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Can someone clue me in on the reason why anyone would prefer Plex instead of Jellyfin?

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The lack of a PS5 app makes Jellyfin useless to me. We have a dumb TV with no casting ability so the PlayStation is our media box.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There are a LOT of pros and cons.

Pros:

  • Developed by a professional, multi-disciplined full-time team with some security oversight.
  • Hosted caching of The Movie DB for faster lookups
  • Provision of SSL communication to and from your server without any special setup
  • FREE EPG data caching
  • Centralized server management from the web
  • Low-speed relay for those stuck behind CGNAT.
  • A REALLY solid mobile audio*** player (sorry, but plexamp beats the pants off the JF alternatives)
  • Centralized Login for your friends and family with email-based password reset
  • 2FA already set up
  • A nice reflector gauge to see if your* ports are open and what your limits are
  • Great client support on a LOT of devices
  • Search is fast out of the box, even with extensive collections
  • Their clients tend to do a better job supporting all the decoding features on every player
  • Very reasonable Tuner support (but somewhat ugly) **

Cons:

  • Not free
  • Not Open
  • They have a lot of your historical data and will eventually sell it when they sell the company. This is not going to be optional. That data is worth a lot and they likely already have enough EULA rights to sell it to whoever asks. Imagine if the MPAA gets in on the fun.
  • Their security history is quite dicey
  • The lifetime membership will eventually be enshitified as it's not economically sound in the long run
  • They constantly change the terms of the agreement.
  • They constantly remove features people are using
  • They constantly push to share data between users
  • They constantly push Ads
  • They are making previously free features pay.
  • Their investors are starving, which makes them a liability.
  • Their clients are generally slower.

edit: * a word ** forgot to shout out for the tuner support *** replaced media with audio for clarity

[–] minoscopede@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

python -m http.server is still my media server of choice. It's never let me down.

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Mine too! I'm enjoying your media server right now.

/s

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I bet you'd like filebrowser. Cleaner interface while being minimal as http.server

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