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[–] Kojichan@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I just code in Notepad++. I make an error, I fix it. It doesn't work, I just dump variables to see what I did wrong and where.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

No, no they are not.

Bad ones? Yeah, just like that.

[–] Charmander8649@programming.dev 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, IntelliJ has become worse over time. Or atleast Android Studio has. IntelliJ used to be amazing.

[–] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

IntelliJ now requires like 8GiB of RAM to even open.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 3 days ago

Isn't the JVM limited to 2 GB or something like that?

[–] Nachtnebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

This is why everyone should go back to ed

[–] bier@feddit.nl 2 points 6 days ago

Too many features but also autocomplete isn't working? So I guess you do want many features?

[–] leds@feddit.dk 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also using 10GB memory ...

[–] SirQuack@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

When I started working for my current employer, I was surprised by how much ram my VDI has. We're not allowed to code on our own devices (but those are still specced out) but 64 Gs of ram in a virtual desktop was a welcome environment to work in.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago

Hah, per window.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've had everything on this list with Visual Studio alone, with the exception of #2 maybe.

  1. All the AI shit they're adding, plus the millions of windows you can pull up that are all hidden in different places. The only way this is remotely usable is with the search.

  2. This happens every other day when working with Blazor. As an added bonus, it can never decide on spacing and will constantly change it.

  3. Probably a symptom of using legacy code and modern code at the same time, but good god the settings for everything are in a million places.

  4. Another symptom of blazor.

  5. Our project is too big.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You should refer to Visual Studio by its full title: "Visual Studio (not responding)".

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just use vim, it usually comes preinstalled

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unless you need to work on a solution with more than a few projects, such as Unity games. Then the LSPs go haywire and eat 20+Gb of memory, while not actually working.

Which, ofc, is Microsoft's fault, since it's their analyzer that has had the bug for years now. Rider didn't have that problem, but it shits itself when you change branches. You can't win :(

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For a few files, sure. Idk how I'd use that on the large corporate Java codebase that I usually work with though. Despite all its memory hogging and unnecessary features, IntelliJ also proves remarkably useful when trying to find anything in these mega projects. Features like ctrl + clicking on a method call to get to its definition (even when it is in a different project that I don't have checked out), the refactoring tools, the debugger, etc are absolutely necessary to get anything done.

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

IIRC vi has been installed, or perhaps tinyvim, then I always go and install vim-gtk

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[–] firelizzard@programming.dev 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

VSCode is the first development environment I’ve used that doesn’t make me feel like this. It’s not perfect but the base application is rock solid and the full DE experience is the more reliable than any other DE I’ve used.

P.S. I specifically said DE for those people who say VSCode isn’t an IDE. Personally I don’t see the point in differentiating.

P.P.S. Sublime is not a DE in my opinion. It’s an excellent text editor with syntax highlighting. The plugins were an afterthought and it was never intended to provide the full experience. Granted I haven’t used it in years.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

VSCode is by far and away the best thing Microsoft has ever done. (I'm sure therefore they will ruin it eventually, but that's a separate issue)

Its good for two main reasons IMO:

  1. It is plugin-based

  2. It is (therefore) language-agnostic

Plugins mean the DE starts as a very lightweight thing that is basically nothing more than a text editor. You can then add as much or as little as you want to get the level of features you are comfortable with but without being too bloated.

And then, because it's all plugins, you can work with any language and still stay within the same editor. Divine.

I personally love how lightweight it is compared to a full IDE because I don't like it when IDEs hide the magic behind UI. Press the button and it compiles huh? But how? What's going on there? What toolchain and commands are being executed?

I much prefer a good MAKEFILE where you know what your entry points are and what is going on, because it makes everything so much more portable and also improves your own knowledge and understanding.

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[–] yogsototh@programming.dev 19 points 1 week ago
[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I use Jetbrains IDEs now for 5 years, I've used VSCode, Sublime, Atom, Vim, Neovim but I feel like Jetbrains IDEs are just better if you have the RAM to run it.

  1. It's a setting.
  2. Doesn't happen
  3. Doesn't happen
  4. Searchable actions, just search for "encoding" in this case.
  5. That's an LSP/project mismatch usually just a setting. Most things are supported but worst case you can remove the error.
  6. Happens if you run out of RAM or open a very large file.

So it's not all bad, but comes with a lot of good such as "invert if statement", "use template strings" and "extract method" thingies along with a load of plugins.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

I'm so spoiled by searchable settings that it feels like I'm back in the 50s if I actually have to manually click around menus looking for a setting.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
  1. can also sometimes happen when your workplaces corporate antivirus you can't uninstall, pause, or change any settings on decides to scan your project files while a build is in progress 🤦🤦🤦
[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Oh, you get the benefit of explicit scanning?

We get the beauty of every file that's modified being scanned before the write "completes". It's an absolute joy starting a build and watching ~80% of the available compute be consumed by antivirus software.

Or, you know, normal filesystem caching as part of your tool's workflow.

Or dependency installing and unpacking....

Or anything actually that touches a lot of files.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah was experiencing that for awhile, a couple of workarounds:

  • run the IDE inside a VM
  • Use windows "dev drive" and got the admins to exclude it from active scanning, but it seems like that setting has been lost recently 😕
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[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Charmander8649@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Kate is great for being a compiled C++ program, making it nice and lightweight. Plus lots of syntax highlighting. Not quite the same as IDEs with auto completion, but pretty good for plain text editing.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 6 days ago

It can give autocompletion based on the current file, which is good for writing self contained classes. You can also enable an LSP to get language autocompletion :D

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

XCode would randomly stop syntax highlighting for years because their engineering was so shit.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In the JetBrains IDEs (which, relatively speaking, I like), I have to use "Invalidate caches and restart" several times a day just to get past all the incorrect error highlighting.

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[–] Australis13@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago

Definitely #1. I've encountered #2 with a very specific IDE and #4 and #5 on occasion.

[–] ___f____g___@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The IDE is the worst part of being an iOS developer.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yes, and the worst part is that XCode is only available on OSX.

I once had to make an iOS app once and didn't have a Mac so I developed the entire thing in a VM. There was no video encoding, the FPS was in the low single digits, which made it very difficult to even type. So I ended up writing the code using VSCode through SSH through Wireguard connected to the VM on the host machine, which actually worked surprisingly well. But hey, the app did work in the end.

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[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 week ago

It's almost enough to make me feel nostalgic for the DOS version of Borland Turbo Pascal, which wasn't bright enough to do any of this stuff. (Well, it could freeze up, I suppose, but the only time I actually managed to do anything like that, it involved a null pointer dereference that would have triggered a segfault on any modern system.)

[–] palebluethought@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

#1 and 3, definitely, although 3 is usually not really the IDEs fault.

The others, either not really (#2, 5), who cares, (#4), or maybe occasionally but not really specific to IDEs (#6).

[–] lambdabeta@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

How is #6 not specific to IDEs? I've never had vim, np++, or any other dedicated editor freeze; and I've used them to edit multi-gigabyte log files before.

[–] BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

None of those issues for my main IDE, though Rider on some occasions do get stuck marking some spelling errors after they are fixed.

It has stuttered a few times, but pretty rare. But it does have a bug where it think it is building a project, but isn't. And requires a restart to fix... Easy to trigger if you try building a project while it's loading the project...

Visual Stuido with Resharper is the one where things would randomly stop working though. Especially hotkeys would sometimes stop working until I restarted it. Slow and stutter too.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.

  • it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it ❌
  • I have not seen it crash a lot and certainly not for the stated reason ❌
  • if autocomplete isn't working, that is a sign something about the build process isn't set up right, so other things won't work either ❔
  • basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅
  • if it underlines something, that has always been an error, I think it calls a real Java compiler for this ❌
  • freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅
[–] tauren@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅

Nah, there is:

  1. A special hotkey that allows you to find and execute virtually any command. Same in vscode with ctrl+shift+p.
  2. Text-based search in the settings dialog.

So even though things are buried somewhere deep, it's easy to find them.

freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅

Sounds like a ~~skill~~ hardware issue tbh.

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Neovim >>> any ide

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