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[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

Why doesn't a spectrum imply total ordering? Seems like an ordinary one-dimensional line (of course in reality, sexuality is not just a spectrum either, it's some high-dimensional space, but I digress…).

Or do I just not know the word spectrum properly?

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Microcosmic example. Take 3 people - a newborn (A), a professor of biology (B) and a professor in philosophy (C).

You're easily able to argue that both professors are more intelligent than the newborn (A<B and A<C). However, you're unable to establish (in any meaningful way) whether B<C, or C<B; even B=C is out. This is because both professors have knowledge the other does not, so trying to meaningfully equate or order them in relation to one another is an act of futility.

This is a fun example of a partial order that most of us see every day (in a less extreme form).

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My money's on the biology professor.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I say we let them fight to the death to see which one is smarter. I'm putting extra money on the Philosophy Professor going on a rant about how physical combat has nothing to do with intelligence - and getting struck down in the midst of his soliloquy.

Biology Professor: "Survival of the fittest!"

[–] excral@feddit.org 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

That's also part of the reason why IQ scores are deeply flawed. Using a single number to measure intelligence implies there is an absolute order.

Fun fact: Richard Feynman, one of the greatest physicist of the 20th century and legendary physics educator (author of the Feynman Lectures), was invited to join Mensa after he won the Nobel Prize in physics. He declined however, because he didn't meet the IQ score of 130 normally required by Mensa.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's similar with the ASVAB (multisection test for determing qualification for military service). I scored the highest score available, a 99, because it seemed in each section they moved on once they established competence.

The few people who saw my score (I don't go around telling people) have asked if I was super smart or something (the recruiter called me "professor" and asked if I had a Masters), and I said no, I am just competent at anything I could do in the military. I'm honestly not excellent at any particular thing, and in any given task I'm unlikely to be the best one there for it. But I'm capable of doing any task adequately. As my old trombone instructor used to say, I'm a "jack of all trades, master of none."

But the test doesn't care if you're amazing at anything. It just wants to see if you're capable of doing anything.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

looky here we got us a man who earned a 99 in cleaning out the shithouse. Grab a shovel, "Professor".

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I mean, yeah, I can very competently clean out a shithouse as well as I can competently fix a helicopter. I probably won't be exceptional at either one (though I absolutely kill it on written tests, I guess).

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Gardner’s “multiple intelligences” model is a nicer way to think about intelligence, but it’s not really quantifiable in the same way. (How would you measure how “ecologically” intelligent someone is?)

It’s very appealing to think that we have some sort of “int” stat like a Dungeons and Dragons character, but I don’t think it’s really that valuable. If the IQ/the “g factor” measures anything, it’s probably something about being able to quickly process visual information. I have a relatively high IQ and think that’s the trait I have that is being measured (from the testing they did in the teen torture facility I spent my adolescence in - my high IQ meant that I was a dangerous, manipulative liar of course.)

If you have two and a half hours to spare, I think this Shaun video is a masterwork of science communication.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 hours ago

Put another way: like so may things, knowledge is multidimensional. If you just compared them on knowledge of chess openings, or how many digits of π they could recall, you could rank them more confidently on that axis.

But general intelligence is such a slippery fish compared to isolated trivia.

[–] TheBeege@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I didn't know there was a term for this! Thank you! I try to convey this concept all the time, especially for intelligence and skills, so having a word for it is immensely helpful.

[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Remind me of the one where they catch a white guy with cheese

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it’s possible for it to be a total ordering and yet for there to be no gayest person. for example, the open interval (0, 1) is totally ordered and yet has no minimum or maximum. (the maximum would be 1, but it’s not included in the interval by definition.)

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The set of humans currently alive is finite though

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

you got me there

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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 168 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Don't ask for more pixels

Why? Because you're unable to use basic reverse image search or because you're too lazy and unwilling?

[–] lengau@midwest.social 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because they know by doing that they can both get engagement and someone else to find the best quality version for them.

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This has the same energy as the observation that the most reliable way to get an answer on the internet is to post the wrong answer.

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Poe's law I believe

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would getting engagement matter on lemmyshitpost?

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

People are trained to serve the algo and do it even in cases where it does nothing.

It's also why not feeding trolls is a lost art.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 19 points 1 day ago

Maybe it's an artistic statement

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] hoch@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 89 points 1 day ago (9 children)

So at some point, the original screenshot was posted somewhere that doesn't allow the words "sexuality" and "spectrum" but "gayest" is a-okay. Interesting.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 10 hours ago

Internet censorship has somehow become wider and less thoughtful than TV and movie censorship ever was. Including Hayes Code shit.

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

Let’s not assume that it isn’t allowed unless someone explicitly states that. It’s more like a precaution. We shouldn’t cave to that nonsense but it’s become pervasive. I remember when reddit started autocollapsing comments with certain vulgar language.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The world would be a better place if everyone intuitively understood the difference between a spectrum and a scale.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait how do they differ? Aren't radio waves the gayest waves in the electromagnetic spectrum?

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

See? Thats exactly the problem.

OF COURSE radio waves are the gayest waves in the electromagnetic spectrum. BECAUSE they are the ONLY gay waves in the electromagnetic spectrum.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What about multiple people at the gayest point?

[–] BobbyGasoline@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

There can be only one!

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Battle royal

[–] JFLennson@feddit.org 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

*gayest point known to men yet. You never know man.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
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