When we were watching it on BBC there was clearly something going on, but everything you heard was cheers. There were patches when it was very quiet and it just sounded different. When it ended Graham Norton said “I don’t know what you’re hearing at home but the reaction in the hall is very mixed”.
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Good on him for making that comment
Random claps in the Israeli song was hella out of place.
Also, the crowd chanting "Austria" was not edited on the official stream.
They had to mute the booing but they "win" televote. Mossad have been busy tonight.
It doesn't need any organisation; there are plenty of right wing apologists and zealots who are motivated enough to vote. People can't really vote "against" Israel so it'd be very easy to distort the vote if even a minority of people are focused enough to vote for one country. Israel's song wasn't terrible but it was pretty bland ballad and the televote result was patently ludicrous. But also none of the other songs were that great this year which would make it even easier for a concerted effort to win the televote.
Extreme example in the other direction is when Ukraine won in 2022. The song wasn't particularly good but Europe coalesced around voting for Ukraine. Even the Jury voting that year was distorted in Ukraine's favour. It didn't need any organisation.
Yup. Generally big fans of eurovision spread out their votes between their a couple of their favorite songs. Normal viewers give maybe one vote only. Zealots put the max 20 votes on israel from the moment the voting is opened and don't even look at the show.
They were the head sponsor with 'morrocan' oil, which is a Israeli company.
Wow, that just makes the most recent Doctor Who episode all the more poignant
As a non-whovian , could you summarize it?
Some song contest (Eurovision) had gotten so big it was a galactic event. The sponsoring company had invaded one of the planets, stolen their resources (a honey flavored flower) to make a what I think was a cereal, then set fire to the planet to destroy the farms so no one else could get access to the resource.
The singing competition then banned residents of the planet from entering the competition so they didn't have a galactic stage to speak about the sponsors shitty actions.
So it has nothing to do with an occupying invader burning down centuries-old olive trees in between bombing breaks. /s
Username checks out. Guy knows his space produce.
Thnx!
Last year, you could not hear boos when Israel entered, but you heard some between the time the Greek flag (which is the same colours) was seen and Greece was announced, which seemed telling.
eurovision needs to go away. its just naked nationalism, and supporting war crimes should be a stake in its heart. Israel is not even close to being in Europe.
This is last year. There are claims that they did it again this year.
Not claims, they confirmed it themselves.
Banning Joost Klein was when I dropped eurovision already, what a ****show. They ban an artist for nothing, but they don't ban Israel... Okay... ???