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Ocasio-Cortez took to Instagram after the Department of Homeland Security suggested they may pursue arrests of three Democratic lawmakers who partook in a protest outside of an ICE facility in Newark, New Jersey. Reps. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-NJ), Rob Menendez (D-NJ) and LaMonica McIver (D-NJ) all attended the protest.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Hooray for more posturing! Really nice that this current administration has shown without a doubt that our entire system is full of spineless garbage that really will do nothing to balance power, which is literally why those branches of government exist. Yes AOC is a firecracker and more verbal than most. Yes, she drives change and is a speaker for a the people. But without any backup from the entirety of our gov, she's just a megaphone yelling into a void.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

That'd be the humanity.

Any system without wide popular involvement turns into shit.

Wide popular involvement requires simplicity and small number of levels, and ability to ruin and rebuild any part of the state apparatus quickly. So it's limiting, but those limits are liberating, one can say.

At the same time there are no good systems for that wide popular involvement, one would have to pick between Switzerland and the idealized Soviet system, neither is perfectly functional.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

If he does that, all solutions should be on the table. Including second amendment solutions.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

it's long past time for violent solutions but we are all talk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

I've seen 1 violent solution this past year, and that wasn't even in relation to the fascist, but to a corrupt capitalist pig hvor profited from other people's suffering. The left in the USA are all talk.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

stop pushing the goal post... 2a solutions were more than justified 2 two weeks after the clown took over the circus

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah I can't help but read this headline and think "the line they crossed" was kidnapping people and shipping them off to a Salvadoran concentration camp. Who gives a fuck if they're representatives, we're supposed to be a democracy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

That's part of the problem with the people of the USA... when a republican does something evil, you guys twist in pretzels to justify it is not quite THAT evil... when someone stands up against evil (I am not going to say Democrats to that but in this case AOC is standing up and she happens to be a democrat) then all the "yes but..." comment start

This is how I see it:

  • The USA was circling the drain for at least a few decades and now it has been flushed (flushed, it's done, you are now in the sewer)

  • You now have a small (very small) window to save yourselves from starting WWIII which is the logical outcome when the US economy collapses (they are not going to suddenly say "hey we were wrong" and take it)

  • You should fight not just because it is morally compulsory but because you will suffer greatly personally. If you wait to be in pain (no job, no house, etc) it will be too late, you are already almost too late

  • You need to stop cherry picking the very few people you have that seem to have the bravery and/or smarts to fight back somehow. An imperfect ally is NOT an enemy

  • You need to JOIN the fight

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

By who? Whose going to do that?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You. You, the people. Canada is doing it with boycotts which are deeply hurting the US. We didn't have to be told to do it. Nobody organized. We just did it.

There is nobody coming to save you so you have to do it yourselves.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Now maybe I'm being pedantic here but this does seem to slightly suggest that the ordinary citizens being kidnapped off the streets, and sent to death camps...whoops, I mean 'prison', without any legal support is not a problem?

However the upper class fools doing absolutely fuck all to stop the ordinary people being abducted by the us's Gestapo being fingered by tRUMP and his cronies is a step too far?

I like her. Don't get me wrong. She seems to be a good one. Speaks her mind etc etc but if she, and the congress people, would've had a problem about the little guys being taken on broad daylight then there wouldn't be any need to have a problem about her unpoors being fingered!!

Remember the German poem:
First they came for the poors but I did not speak out for I am not poor.
Then...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

many members of Congress have been fighting for the people that have been and are being targeted.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What are you even on about? She's been one of the few that's been talking about it non-stop. Tell me you've not been paying attention and are only interested in grandstanding without telling me..

Also, I will never take anyone seriously that types out "tRUMP."

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[–] [email protected] 305 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You should already have a problem.

[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 day ago (19 children)

How many red lines have been crossed now? I like AOC but the Democrats and Congress aren't going to do shit if they haven't already.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

AOC reminding Americans how to be brave. Penny auctions were a thing, which implied Americans used to be able to stand up to corrupt oligarchs and monied interests. Where is that solidarity and sentiment now? Do Americans need to be poor again altogether in order to rise up?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The key to the penny auction was intimidating speculators and outside interests from scooping up property being auctioned away.

Good luck intimating a Blackrock agent at a sheriff's auction in the modern United States. You're not going to scare off a trillion dollar oligarch and a paramilitary police state with pitchforks

[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

The dad, the mom, and the daughter were all still brutally arrested and taken into custody. The actions of the crowd did nothing. I guess it's a good example to show how we're powerless to stop any of this, so thanks for that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

if they were serious about fighting back, those agents wouldn't have won. we can't wait until they're at our door. wars are not won be reacting. we have to be the hunters.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

except you got enablers like schumer and hakeem bending the knee to the megadonors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

They are behaving exactly like controlled opposition, at this point I could care less about how much they actually are or aren't controlled opposition, what matters is their action or rather lack of it is catastrophic.

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