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[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 141 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Stop calling everyone a "skeptic" and call them what they are: deniers. Anti-science, fact resistant deniers. Calling people germ-theory skeptics, or climate skeptics, or vaccine skeptics, and so on and so on, makes it sound like there's an honest scientific debate going on

[–] goodeye8@fedia.io 41 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Exactly. Skepticism is about casting doubt on beliefs and dogmas, not outright rejecting facts. When it comes to germs and vaccines there's scientific consensus on those matters. They're as close to facts as you can get. But rejecting those you're not a skeptic, you're a denier. There's no scientific debate on those topics, only a political debate on whether to reject science or not.

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[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm sorry but "Germ-theory sceptic" is damaging enough considering the last one should have died in the 1800's.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 12 points 1 month ago

'idiots' is my preferred term. I'm in favor of calling stupid people out again. Too long has stupidity been condoned and even championed 'He tells it like it is'.

They are morons and need to be called that unabashedly.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 86 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm team bacteria on this one. C'mon little guys - do your thing!

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 85 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If he gets some insane new parasite from this what are the odds it kills the one driving his brain now and takes over with a more normal personality?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its like season 5 of Dexter when they start just re-spinning the same more and more absurd plot lines.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago

Can't tell if Dexter or Dexter's lab...

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[–] Headofthebored@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Usually the people in charge of regimes like this are often sadistic hypocrites and absolutely know that what they spout is bullshit. RFK jr. here on the other hand, is apparently actually a fucking idiot.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wouldn't it be an absolute riot of a "leopards ate my face" situation if he ends up croaking because of this?

To clarify: I don't wish any harm on his grandchildren, but this man's level of willful ignorance and sheer recklessness makes it hard for me to sympathize with any negative outcome he may suffer personally.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the creek's bacterial counts—particularly E. coli counts—were dangerously high all the time.

Sorry for those children.

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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

...maybe this problem will solve itself?

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago

Worm or sickness? Who will be faster! MAKE YOUR BETS NOW!

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How can the onion ever hope to compete with reality

the onion can not keep up with this, because fiction has to be believable, unlike reality ;-)

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Like most con men, RFK is using people's ignorance of what odds mean. If the chance of getting sick from swimming in that water is only say one percent, he knows the odds are extremely good that he won't individually get sick, and then he will palm this off as "evidence" that it's all a big fuss over nothing. The park service might know maybe 100,000 people will swim in that water this season, so they'll probably save about a thousand from getting sick by closing the place. Even if somebody who does get sick manages to get the attention of a news outlet, they can be scoffed at as an anomaly. "How do you even know the water was responsible? Where else have you been? You're just looking for attention!"

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is how dumbasses are going to kill us all. “I grew up drinking milk straight from the cow and never got sick! Big government just wants to prevent you from unlocking the magic of drinking pus!”

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[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hope natural selection does its thing.

[–] GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

To him: yes. To his grandkids: no. They don't deserve to get sick and possibly die just because their grandpa is an idiot.

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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 40 points 1 month ago

The water is now less clean for having him in it

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

With modern medicine, we have switched to survival of the richest.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Funny enough not even Steve Jobs level money can save you if you prefer alternative treatments over modern medicine. Of course despite your stupidity you end up stealing a liver that actually someone else deserves more because you are stinking rich but even that does not prevent the inevitable.

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Money won't do shit for you if you're too delusional to believe in modern medicine lol

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 37 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Stuff like this isn't a problem, until it is.

What was in that sewage? Anybody with typhoid? Diphtheria? Probably not because vaccination and treatment is still over herd immunity levels. Then, of course, there were the kids who used to get vaccinated for Polio naturally by exposure to untreated sewage, and us rich countries having terrible cases of polio survival in older people because we didn't bathe in toilet outflows.

Thing is, it's a numbers game. The first hundred people might not get sick, immediately, but if you form two lines, one bathing in the sewage pool and the other bathing in a treated sanitary pool, run 100 people a day through each one and track them for two weeks, you'll see the differences. That's why we have scientific publications, so we can read about these kinds of past experiments and don't have to repeat them.

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[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

During similar conditions in the past it has had around 100x the EPA standard of bacterial colonies.

And he's hypocritical enough that I bet he started an antibiotic cocktail before he went there.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I hope he gets sick and suffers

Maybe we can convince him to drink some of it

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can someone arrest him for child endangerment?

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Lol you can't arrest a rich person, that's not how this works

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Our best chance is that he gets one of these diseases that is effectively treatable with a vaccine.

Thing is, even with that, he'd just take the vaccine and proceed to lie about it for profit. His father must be turning over in his grave.

[–] ExpiringSharpie@lemmy.today 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Vaccines are for prevention, they don't work as treatment.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

numerous century-old municipal sewer lines that run under the park. These lines have cracked over time and leak sewage

This is easy to fix.

Shame the article doesn't say how much the municipality is being fined every day they continue to leak raw sewage into the watershed.

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[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow this is next level stupid, i really thought it was the onion. I'd say i'm even shocked at this demonstration of stupidity, but the fact his grand children are led into this is beyond sad.

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[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Seems like they should fix that sewage leak.

[–] h4x0r@lemm.ee 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, but cleaning up sewage is woke and dei.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Oh, gotcha! I'll just throw my chamber pot out the window then.👍

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm rooting for chlorea here tbh.

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[–] applemao@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

The fact that people have any thought that this guy is smart or a good person makes me hate humanity.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I love that we're literally going back in time. They thought we'd have flying cars and end world hunger, but instead we have to watch our politicians swim in shit water.

Edit: HE TOOK HIS GRANDCHILDREN!?

[–] Itwasntme223@discuss.online 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I think I know how a lot of people are thinking right about now. lol

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[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That little girl looks like she's even sick of grandpa's shit. Hair is bone dry in every photo and the only one of her actually in contact with the water, she's kicking it in his face. She honestly looks visibly upset when he's dangling her brother over it.

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[–] aturtlesdream@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

If ever someone truly deserved a Herman Cain award, it's this man right here!

[–] DarthKaren@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

What a shitty grandpa.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hopefully C Diff will catch a RFK Jr.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

RFK Jr entered into a tontine with himself. He's the only member.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago

Let him swim in the Seine!!!

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Go Darwin! 🎉

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