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Colin Gray, whose son is charged with the slayings of 4 people at Apalachee High School, asked a judge to be separated from other inmates behind bars.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The comments on these stories are always filled with "You should be safe in prison but fuck this guy because he did x"

You realize that's why things just keep getting worse right? Cause y'all will always come up with exceptions. Every. Single. Time.

It's black or white folks. Going to prison shouldn't be a death sentence and you shouldn't be attacked regularly. There are no gray areas here.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same with war crimes against Russia. People here love to argue we should be as bad as the enemy because they did it first, but just this time* fr fr

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I'm anti-russia and fully agree with this. I know the knee jerk reaction is to do unto others what they've done to you but that just continues the cycle.

With that said Slava Ukraini.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

I’m so happy to see this take, it always rubbed me the wrong way when people were like “don’t worry, he will become someone’s bitch in the prison”. Like, wtf!??

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (4 children)

On one hand, you should be safe in jail to serve your time. We aren't animals and treating criminals inhumanely or allowing as such is just perpetuating a cycle.

On the other hand? Fuck that guy.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

True... Once we start talking about more ethical treatment of prisoners, it gets embarrassing fast when we have to confront the fact that not only is most or all US incarceration not intended for any personal or societal benefit or protection, but it is actively seeking to enslave the population for shareholder value.

An entirely new philosophy of how criminal offenders should be dealt with is needed, but I'm not even sure those cards are in this deck.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You left out America's seething thirst for revenge instead of justice and good Ole American racism. Prison is just a house to keep the undesirables. If you're there you deserve everything that happens to you. There are no innocent or even people in prison. Those are things that are kept away to keep society (white ppl) safe.

[–] nullboi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For instance, the great state of Kentucky passed the 'Safer Kentucky Act' which allows police to arrest homeless individuals. So the process is: Homeless > Jail > Homeless > jail > Homeless > jail. Until the fourth time where it becomes a felony.

[–] sirspate@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Geez that's bleak

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And the only prisons where rich white people regularly end up are Minimum security federal prisons, where the large scale financial fraud people go. Is a completely different environment which is more like a college campus or country club.

No cells, rooms, and there’s no fences or anything. It doesn’t look nor feel like a prison.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago

No other hand. He, and every other inmate, deserve and must be protected so they can serve their time safely.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

Agree. If folks don't believe in safely and humanely handling prisoners they effectively permit prison rape as a common and acceptable thing.

I don't think that's alright.

This dude is a criminal and I hope serves time due to his actions. He shouldn't be raped or assaulted while there. He should be incarcerated.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

One source told CNN the AR-15-style rifle was purchased at a local gun store as a Christmas present. The timeline the teen’s father provided to authorities would put the gun purchase months after authorities first contacted Gray and his family to investigate school shooting threats made online. https://archive.li/cC1FT

Yeah, fuck that guy.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

"your son wants to shoot a lot of kids".
Ok here's an auto rifle, son!

What the fuck.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

Even if the purchase was made before first contact, the gun was given to the kid after first contact, that's all that matters.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

Christmas isn’t too far away. May be he can gift an AR-15 those who threaten him.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh, threats of violence you say? We should definitely look into that, maybe go talk to a few inmates with some softball questions, dismiss their batshit crazy answers, and never follow up.

[–] aniki@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago

Hello, Officer!

[–] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Maybe even buy guns as Christmas presents for the inmates making the threats!

[–] zante@lemmy.wtf 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I suspect if you took the total number of inmates I then subtracted those who have not threatened him n then :

Total death threats = i - n

[–] anonymouse2@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

This is assuming that each inmate who threatened to kill him did so only once.

[–] HereticalDoughnut@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Came here to make a similar comment. Like… I’m pretty sure you could calculate it or estimate the number of threats.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

"judge a society by its prisons." fyodor dostoyevsky.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

I believe him. I'm sure there are people in there who consider his actions reprehensible. He got children murdered through his recklessness.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The implication that we can't just count the threats and they must be calculated lmao

What, we have to pay for extra security because this guy is bad at math?