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[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Elissa Slotkin can fuck off.

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency…

Oh, she can really fuck off.

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“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.

This is code for not rocking the boat.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So abandon economic justice and civil rights.

Is there anything left?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

The color blue, instead of red.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

The democrats were never left.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 6 days ago

Way to advertise what side she's really on.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Unfortunately shes in the right party for this BS. This is what the Dems have been for decades. We need a new party, not a new democrat.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

She’s sorta right. ‘Oligarchy’ is a big college word that Joe Bumblefuck doesn’t understand.

Aristocrats is a good word, but again: “duh?”

Therefore Dems just need to start harping about “rich fucking parasites”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

People are clued in on oligarchy even if they don’t quite know the exact definition. After Bernie and AOC started their tour, it was Wikipedia top 5 articles. Slotkin is just a right wing traitor.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Problem Class. Guillotine Fodder.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And this is why fascism is winning.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep. When the 'resistance' grand plans are to adopt the fascist framing (e.g. that 'woke is weak' and should be surrendered) what's the point in having an opposition party?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

what’s the point in having an opposition party?

To co-opt and prevent real opposition.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago

The Democratic Party is so full of collaborationists. Just shows how democracy and capitalism are incompatible. The bourgeois class just buy the politicians.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 days ago

The unfalsifiable orthodoxy. Moving to the far-right and appealing to moderate Republicans win elections. If a Democrat wins, it proves that this works, if a Democrat loses, they just hadn't moved far-right enough.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago

"Don't let perfect the enemy of good."

The "good":

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

First part of article title is a bit misleading I think. She thinks "Kings" is a better term than oligarchy because it's more relatable. She has a plan to fight kings. She does seem to think wokeness is weak though.

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans and should be replaced with “kings.”

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.

“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Somehow this made it worse. “goddamn Alpha energy” - who are these people. All I want is for the dems to not be rich people faking concern for the poor.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

People recognize when they're being talked down to, this is a losing strategy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

God fuck this woman

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago

Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago

I am sure this slide to the right will surely work.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The only reason the party has the woke reputation is that empty lip service is really all they had left. People like this need to get a fucking clue. If people want to vote for republicans, they will never ever ever get confused and accidentally vote for democrats just because you mirrored their policies from 12-20 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

empty lip service is really all they had left

That’s all there ever was. They never did jack or shit to help LGBT people in southern states.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Outsider opinion: There are two sides who haven’t voted for you, one side who says they’ll vote for you if you change, and another side who says they’ll never vote anything but red. There seems to be an obvious vote to go after.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Capitulation to the right hasn't worked for 20 years. The Third Way is dead and no one respects it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not only do we not respect it, we hate it with the heat of a thousand suns

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yep, I voted for the Green Party, for this very reason, and all I get from people is criticism. Democrats who don't oppose fascism aren't worth voting for. If they want to be Blue MAGA they can go after Trump's voters and see where that gets them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Good for you. What people from the "a vote for third party is a vote for Trump" camp don't understand is that the two-party system is exactly how fascism was able to become standard Republican Party policy in the first place.

A decent multi-party democracy would have enabled traditional non-fascist conservatives to break off into their own party whilst still holding seats in Congress, but instead we've got a whole party full of people who denounced Trump as a fascist way back in 2014 but have now kissed the ring. Likewise parties like the Greens would be able to enjoy votes from the millions of people who agree with all their policies, and be able to have members speaking and voting in Congress.

But the only way any of this can happen is if people stop being so short-sighted about every single election, and stop trying to whip each other into toeing the line of a demonstrably pisspoor party.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Of course. They don't want to fix things, they just want to be the ones getting the benefits.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

Let's get back to our controlled opposition roots.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Fighting Oligarchy resonates greatly. But yes, the dems have focused too much on the culture war in favour of participating in the class war against the working class.

That is definitely something they should put waaaay more focus on. Trump is the cry for help of much of the working class, if people would believe you actually fought FOR the working people in your country, the dems would be unstoppable.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

woke is what republicans use to attack whatever they dont like, if a democrat uses woke, they arnt really a DEMocrat, alot of them have a veneer of being dem or progressive but they often use buzzwords of right wingers to justify thier positions.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

THESE are the types of incumbents the DNC does not want primaried?! Holy hell.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Slotkin is a NEOCON.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

And you're the problem

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

American number 1 priority would be to get out this 2 party system with ranked voting or something.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Hey stupid you're doing it wrong. Going even more to the right isn't going to change jack shit. Listen to the people who are already willing to vote for Democrat if only the Democrat wasn't an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

kamala never mentioned identity politics on the campaign

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

What are they going to do, ask MAGA to stop calling them "woke"? MAGA is all about bullying people, so saying "we don't like your name-calling" is only going to make it worse.

Grow a spine. Respond with "I know what woke means, so are you arguing against it from the racism angle or the ignorance angle?"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

If they quack like a republican and walk like a republican, they're a republican

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Thats the ratcheting effect

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Put her near the top of the list to be primaried.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Elissa, stop running your mouth and do it yourself if you have a better idea.

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