Glad you could integrate it into your schedule
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Shouldn’t one calculus be enough?
Software engineering degree is bloated
Yeah, I never understood why I needed calculus for my software engineering degree, much less three classes worth.
Its about the development of reasoning. Cal 2 is also where you learn about series which helps in building approximations and proofs.
In my opinion, a degree is supposed to make you very well-rounded in the specific area (in this case SWE/CS). If a student wants to pursue a career in academia or scientific computing, knowledge in calculus, linear algebra, analytic geometry, etc. will come in handy.
In my country (Eastern Europe) specifically, a bachelor's in computer science can also allow you to get accepted into master's and potentially a PhD program in mathematics or physics.
To make algorithms with, you slacker
Linear algebra would've been a much more useful requirement
Only for data science, not if you're going to do webdev. There is no "one course fits all" for software development anymore
I also had to take that
My software engineering degree required me to do "Calculus and Linear Algebra" 1 and 2, as well as "Multivariate Calculus and Ordinary Differential Equations". I can't say that I've used any of it in my work, but at least linear algebra has obvious applications in computer science. Not so sure about calculus.
Discrete mathematics was much more directly useful.
In my org there are SWEs that write metrics-based alerts for their running software and often need to take derivatives for example. That may not need 3 calculus classes, but beyond that there’s also the thought process that goes into it that’s applicable to the job.
Yeah me neither and my degree was 30 years ago. My best guess is they want to see if you can get competent with a bunch of new techniques and then apply them. That skill is the same whether it's calculus, physics, or JavaScript.
When I went to uni, an assistant professor once openly said that the math courses were to filter out morons. He used nicer words which I can’t remember now.
We've had one calculus, yes, but what about second calculus?
Love integration! Much more fun than derivatives!
I understand ≈70% of those words.
Integration: just think about driving somewhere in your car. How long it takes you to get there depends on how fast you’re going as well as the total distance you need to travel. This is easy to figure out if you’re going exactly one constant speed for the entire trip.
But what if you’re driving in the city and you’re speeding up and slowing down all the time? Maybe sometimes you even need to go in reverse which takes you further away from the destination! So the problem you have is that your speed is changing throughout the trip (sometimes even going negative when you’re driving in reverse) and you still want to somehow figure out how long it takes.
Perhaps you might have thought of a straightforward (albeit tedious) way of getting the answer: record your current speed and the current time in a notebook every so often and then multiply each speed by the time interval to get all these small slices of distance travelled, then add them all up at the end. Congratulations, that’s the idea behind integration!
There’s one problem though: your speed might be changing throughout each time interval so the answer you get has all these mistakes that just add up to give you an inaccurate result! Solution: make all the time intervals smaller! This way each time interval includes a more accurate speed, so there will be less errors when we add them all up. Thus the theory of integration is that we can make the intervals arbitrarily small (as small as we want) to get an answer as accurate as we want all the way down to infinite intervals of infinitesimal length which ought to give us the exact answer (and it does)!
Differentiation (calculation of derivatives): the opposite of integration. This takes an entire trip in the car and gives us the ability to calculate our exact speed at any instant in time. Unlike how we might calculate an average speed by looking at the total distance travelled over a time interval and dividing it by that length of time, a derivative gives us the exact speed at a moment in time!
Anyway I hope those two rough explanations help illuminate things a bit for you. Integration and differentiation (calculus) are actually way more useful than just for calculating speeds and distances. For example, the same ideas can be used to calculate the area of an irregular shape (divide it up into squares and add them all up, making the squares smaller helps reduce the errors around the edges) or the volume of an irregular container! Or the slope of a hill at any point on its surface! Or perhaps the lowest point of a valley (using a technique called gradient descent).
That last one is actually very commonly used in artificial intelligence as a training technique. There you’re trying to find the minimum point in some higher dimensional data, according to some rules you have. With gradient descent you use differentiation to find the slope and then you take a small step along the slope towards that minimum point, then repeat!
I understood them 10 years ago but now they are gibberish to me.
Baptism removed your original calculus
Oof that was a tough course