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[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 62 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I just don't get it. Why don't they bring back that one guy and be done with it? Why lot of resistance over one guy?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 118 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Two reasons. First, they're not wrong: now that the man is in foreign custody, the US can do nothing more than ask for his release. The Administration cannot compel his release. They could ask forcefully, but El Salvador can still decline.

But second, the administration did this on purpose, because it can. They set up this foreign prison precisely so that people they sent there can never be forced to come back by any US court, in direct opposition to the US Constitution. And they are doing this publically, so everyone knows that people can be "disappeared" by this government. Any foreign national is at risk of being "administrative error"ed into non-existence. And let's face it, that means any human in the US can be, because anyone who can't prove their citizenship status on the spot will be presumed to be a non-citizen, and even people with documentation on their person can have it confiscated and "lost". It is straight-up intimidation of people who the President doesn't like.

Well, a third reason, too: if this guy ever comes back and tells his story to the press, that might be the thing that snaps all the MAGAs out of their trance. So it is not in the Administration's interest to ever have him come back.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, a third reason, too: if this guy ever comes back and tells his story to the press, that might be the thing that snaps all the MAGAs out of their trance.

Yeah..... About that. They'll just plug their ears and go "lalalalalala, he's got Trump derangement syndrome, he just hates Trump! Lying MSM paid him! George Soros!" There's no reaching MAGA :(

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It’ll definitely snap the democrats into acting, but I don’t think there’s much that the administration can do to a brown person that will snap the magas out of their brainwashing.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There's a 4th reason. He's already dead.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I hope not. But if he was, there's really no reason for El Salvador to keep him, is there?

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 13 points 11 months ago

That’s awful generous to assume they don’t dump dead bodies in the closest large ditch out there…

Plus they don’t want a martyr

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

The facility was built to hold 20k. There’s at least 80k.

Folks on TikTok have posted Google images results that look like blood pools from slaughterhouses.

He is either dead, or has seen the things that make you wish you were dead.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That would probably be too merciful an outcome, frankly...

[–] argentcorvid@midwest.social 77 points 11 months ago (2 children)

its the test case for sending whoever they want to the gulag.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 45 points 11 months ago

Remember: Camp Auschwitz was in Poland, not Germany.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

^^ this right here. That’s the exact reason.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Because he’s probably already dead.

This is a prison which has taken in a lot of people, and bragged about never releasing anyone. It’s an extermination camp, not a work camp.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because they'd be admitting they have a responsibilty for their actions. Something Trump or his buddies have never had, and don't intent to start having.

What's going to be next? They'll have a responsibility for the LGBTQ+ people they'll send to deathcamps? You can't have that as an authoritarian.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

There could be additional reasons, but the main is why they sent people to a foreign jail is so no one can force them to bring them back. This is why we can't just let go and accept it.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago
  1. they don't want him talking about what happened to him

  2. it's not about the guy, it's about holding onto power

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Just belligerence? Trump doesn't give a shit and acts like a child whenever he's told to do anything. And when you give somebody like that power, well... This is what you get.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 11 months ago

Its a test run and if they get away with it there’s going to be so many more. This cant stand

[–] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

What this means specifically is that the Trump administration is openly admitting that all of these extraordinary renditions are one-way tickets to a death sentence. CECOT has no rehabilitation programs, and prisoners have no release dates or even access to legal counsel.

This is a modern day Gulag, and US taxpayers are literally paying for it.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Funny how Brian Thompson is a father and Kilmar is a “terrorist.”

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

A man was falsely imprisoned. The people in charge shouldn't have to be told to fix that mistake, they should just do it

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This makes no sense. Correct your error MAGAts.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 16 points 11 months ago

Was it really an “error” to them though? Or a test?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

If they were either capable or willing to do that, they wouldn't be MAGAts in the first place.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 7 points 11 months ago

They have the executive and the legislative, just gotta finish off that pesky judicial.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

How y'all liking American Fascism?

[–] violetdelights818@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I read a rumor, so take this with a grain of salt.

The prisoners are serving as science experiments for neuralink.

Elon’s bitch ass is facing federal inquiry. The Guardian states that approximately 1,500 monkeys have been killed by him.

Some insiders said it cases extreme suffering. There are photos.

Remember unit 731, the Japanese scientists? While stationed in china they also conducted unethical medical experiments.

There is no need for neuralink, WTF. I don’t know. There are leaked photos.

Call back to that bitch Harlow.