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White House Plan Calls for NOAA Research Programs to Be Dismantled (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 10 months ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/climate@slrpnk.net

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[+] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Almost like an idiot made the decision to make arbitrary cuts to vital services.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Not arbitrary at all. Focused, targeted, lobbied and paid for by an industry that massively benefits from shaping the body of knowledge and discussion around the topic.

Arbitrary implies indifference or accidental; this is strategic, premeditated and predatory.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Break Up NOAA. NOAA consists of six main offices: l The National Weather Service (NWS); l The National Ocean Service (NOS); l The Oceanic and Atmospheric Research (OAR); l The National Environmental Satellite, Data and Information Service (NESDIS); l The National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS); and l The Office of Marine and Aviation Operations and NOAA Corps. Together, these form a colossal operation that has become one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry and, as such, is harmful to future U.S. prosperity. This industry’s mission emphasis on prediction and management seems designed around the fatal conceit of planning for the unplannable. That is not to say NOAA is useless, but its current organization corrupts its useful func- tions. It should be broken up and downsized.

Thats from Project 2025, emphasis mine.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

If it was focused they'd leave the weather forecast alone and only targeted climate change. Instead they cut everything.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They have two things going on:

the historical weather data is what gets used to show past climate and the change we are seeing
the founder of AccuWeather thinks he can make more money if government forecasts are less accurate and paid his way into the upper echelon of the Republican Party.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I'm sure there's a privatisation play going on, but there's no way you can actually make money on providing weather forecasts if you're suddenly going to be needing to put weather stations everywhere. I guess they'll just force the government to keep paying for those and just do the forecasting based on the raw data.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

The weather channel is actually to blame.

They want to privatize the weather.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago

We are truly fucked.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are users trying to save the data as far as I know. I did found about this through Mastodon. Here is a link to the forum. https://forum.safeguar.de/t/noaa-all-services-specifically-amazon-web-servies-urgent/569

[–] three@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Looks like the torrents for the NOAA datasets and many others are being uploaded here, if anyone would like to help seed.