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Hello Everyone,

As someone who's religious beliefs are on a shaky ground, what books on atheism can you recommend me to read?

I'm looking for something for beginners / down-to-earth.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unironically, read the Qur'an and the Bible (the novel), if you're feeling adventurous educate yourself on Buddhism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The only book I ever needed to read to become an atheist was The Holy Bible.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

You seem to think atheism is some alternative belief you need to study. it's not, It's just no longer believing in the idea of God and instead just focusing on living your life the best you can. Just ask questions, be curious and don't take anything at face value.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The best thing about being free of religion, is being free of religion.

Go pick up a book on microprocessor architecture, that is neat stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Hahahahaha what a great answer!

You're absolutely right

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

From what I hear, reading The Bible is a lot of people's first steps towards atheism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reading bible, understanding what the real teachings of all religionse are at its core (be nice to each other, dont kill, help the poor, dont steal aso) and then have a look how many religiouse organisations work and how they go against their own core beliefs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Matthew 22:36-40

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Basically sums up Christianity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good point.

And plus, if you can figure out what "the Lord your God" is supposed to mean, then I think the message in the bible becomes pretty clear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Problem is Lord your God can really mean a lot of things.

God could be everything and everyone to one person and hating gays to another.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

You're right about that. I like how a prime focus on most foss-platforms is the intolerance to hate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

🙋‍♀️ grew up with a religious mother, went to church every Sunday, did bible study and got baptized as a teenager. Then I went to college and continued reading the Bible on my own. Without anyone else shaping/interpreting what I read, I quickly disagreed with the text. It was interesting to see how much the church’s interpretation can differ from your own when reading the same text

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

**Ishmael by Daniel Quinn ** Not exactly about religion but a turning point for me.

Ishmael is a half ton silverback gorilla. He is a student of ecology, life, freedom, and the human condition. He is also a teacher. He teaches that which all humans need to learn — must learn — if our species, and the rest of life on Earth as we know it, is to survive.

The book opens with a deceptively ordinary personals ad: “Teacher seeks pupil. Must have an earnest desire to save the world.” Seeking a direction for his life, a young man answers the ad and is startled to find that the teacher is a lowland gorilla named Ishmael, a creature uniquely placed to vision anew the human story.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

yep. reading this had a profound effect on my worldview. I also find it's fascinating to introduce it to other people and see how they react. I've seen the gamut, from people who thought it was interesting to people reacting almost violently to reject it's premise. great book.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

While others are right that there are no must-read books, deprogramming yourself from religion would be worth while, and reading atheist recommended books will help you do that.

  • the demon haunted world
  • the god delusion
  • waking up: a guide to spirituality without religion
  • letter to a Christian nation
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Lord of the rings is a great book series.

I'm very fond of scifi, the old man war series is a very fun and smooth series to read. I like to recommend it to ppl that want to read a longer, but easy to digest series.

If you like scifi in general, you can't go wrong by picking any random nebula award winner. It's what I've done these past few years. Can't say I've regretted it this far.

You'll have plenty time to read amazing books now that you don't have to waste your time in church, reading the Bible and thinking about skydaddy. Welcome to freedom!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Atheism isn't a religion, so there isn't "must read books" nor mandatory workshops. Do what you please.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Come to think of it, I wouldn’t really recommend any books on atheism. Atheism is not really its own thing, it’s just the result of not being persuaded by the claims of theism.

For me personally, I actually became an atheist via reading various religious texts, as well as various acclaimed spiritual novels. So sort of the opposite of what you’re asking for haha.

Recommendations based on science and humanism are okay, since that gives you a place to start looking through the secular stance on the mysteries religions claim to have all the answers for. But that also isn’t quite what you’re asking for. Many scientists and philosophers are religious themselves, after all.

Yet a third thing you aren’t asking for: I would check out Matt Dillahunty. He used to do a call-in show in Austin. Mostly just regular religious people calling in, going through their thought process on why they believed, then getting an atheist’s perspective in response. Looks like he’s still very active on youtube these days

I haven’t listened in years, and if I recall some of the most viewed clips were basically just angry arguments lol. But sitting and listening through full episodes is about as down-to-earth of atheist content as I can think of. Just addressing religious claims one at a time

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

The Demon-Haunted World by Carl Sagan

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Small Gods is indeed a great choice. I never thought of it as a "book for atheists" and it's quite unlikely to turn someone religious into a non-believer - but it's clever, funny and one of my personal favorite Terry Patches books. So, worst case scenario: you've read a highly entertaining book.

"The Bible" is the book that ultimately turned me into a convinced atheist. If you actually read it, without having it filtered and read to you by religious people with agendas, it's hard to continue believing in any of its insane ramblings. But it's a really tough, slow and often immoral and revolting read. Mostly, it's just really stupid.

"The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" is the opposite. It's a funny, light and often silly read. It's not exactly deep, but neither are the books it's parodizing. As a satire of other religious text it works reasonably well in putting the finger in the wound.

"The Portable Atheist: Essential Readings for the Nonbeliever" is just that: a collection of texts and letters on the subject by some brilliant minds: Bertrand Russell, Albert Einstein, Mark Twain, Lucrecius, Charles Darwin, Richard Dawkins and many more ... collected and edited by Christopher Hitchens. As an anthology it allows you to dip your toes in and read the texts you are interested in. Maybe my first choice as serious "atheism for beginners" literature.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not really approaching the topic of religion in any way (as far as I recall), but Bill Bryson - "A Short History of Nearly Everything" is a neat book, especially if your knowledge about the world is grounded in religious teachings.

Basically it goes through a lot of the scientific knowledge we have today and tells the story of how it was discovered, focusing on giving answers to "how we know what you know". It's a bit oversimplified in many areas, but it's still pretty educational, entertaining, and at times pretty funny. The part about Henry Cavendish (18th century chemist) is hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just read r/atheism if you want to become the final atheist form!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Small Gods by Terry Pratchett is a fun and thought-provoking fantasy, focused on religion and it's social effects. It also has a pretty funny take on atheism.

Some of his other books makes some really great points about belief in general, particularly The Hogfather, the witches books, and Feet Of Clay.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

One that comes to mind is "Religion for Atheists". It is a great book that highlights the non-spiritual functions of religion in society. The idea is by identifying what function you got out of religion in the past, you may find ways to replace it without getting involved in the collective delusion of pretending to know the unknowable.

If you're stepping away from the god of Abraham, you could always read Nietzsche's "The Antichrist" but i dont really recommend most people read Nietzsche without some solid footing in philosophy and some helpful context, since he can lead people to some straight up Nazi shit which he elsewhere explicitly warned against. Context important with him. But it's a scathing criticism of the role of dogma in society.

If you feel a need for a spiritual drink without relapsing on god, I recommend exploring the Dao De Jing. It's another one that benefits from context, rereading, and meditation, but it can explain the world quite nicely without need of an invested anthropomorphic god.

Finally, you might want to pick up some existentialist literature if you feel like life has no meaning and you're lost. Sartre or Frankl come to mind.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, I would recommend not books on atheism per se, but rather ones exploring non-theistic philosophy. Schools of thought amongst atheists and agnostics are just as diverse, if not more so than amongst theists. My world view is made up of many things, humanitarianism, empiricism and so forth. Ideas that build a foundation.

There is also the more emotional side, finding beauty and purpose in life. Personally I find myself coming back to the works of Carl Sagan, particularly "The pale blue dot". Capturing, at least for me, a lot of essence.

Here is a short excerpt that he read. Just, wow.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I second this. His command of wonder and awe is something I miss dearly. I cherish the words and ideas that he left us.

The Pale Blue Dot is a great start, a great book too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The best book I've read on religion is Small Gods by Terry Pratchett.

It offers criticism of religion and also perspective as to why people view it as a framework for interpreting the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Haha, I read this thread hours ago, and then just came back and posted almost exactly this comment, before seeing that you already had 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I Sold My Soul On EBay - Hemant Mehta

Good humor, seems like a genuinely nice and smart Guy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Not a book on atheism per se, but I'd recommend an annotated copy of the Dao De Jing. It is philosophical, helping the reader to understand the universe and the way to make life meaningful. As others have said, it can be nice to broaden your horizons with ways of thinking that are different from your background, even if it's not capital A Atheist

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

The Skeptic's Annotated Bible by Steve Wells, assuming you're Christian (or I suppose Jewish or Muslim to a lesser extent).

It's literally the KJV bible with commentary by an atheist. It might be a bit much to sit down and read over several days, but it should be useful.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Oooh, another one that's well worth a read is Richard Dawkin's The Selfish Gene.

I think Dawkins is a bit of a dick, and his brand of combative atheism is unpleasant at best, and probably counterproductive. But he is (or was) an amazing writer on evolutionary biology, and that book's the best explanation of how evolution works that I've read. (Also, it's NOT about selfishness at the human scale, the world is used metaphorically, and there is even a chapter or two explaining how altruism could have developed).

His book The Blind Watchmaker is also good for it's exploration of abiogenesis, though it's a bit later and it has a bit of the anti-religious arrogance of some of his newer approach.

These aren't really about atheism, but more providing an alternative world view that undermines the obviousness of creationism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

atheism is anything goes - no manual required - The epitome of simplicity -

If you’re shopping for explanations/justification, you don’t truly believe atheism

Good luck figuring out how to survive this wack world…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kant and other Philosophiphers of the enlightenment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

ugh how could you recommend Kant 😴

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

The Satanic Verses

This book is essentially a parody of religious texts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

The awakening of intelligence by jiddu krishnamurthi.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

My recommendations are oriented towards people with a christian background, that said a lot of the ideas involved can be applied to religious belief systems as a whole.

  • Isaac Asimov's guide to the Bible - an annotated version of the old and new testament that provides additional clarity and historical context.

  • The Skeptics Annotated Bible by Steven Wells - A version of the King James Bible with annotations written from an Atheist's perspective.

  • The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins - A book that walks through a lot of the logical fallacies, magical thinking, and cognitive biases that Dawkins sees in religious belief. As the title suggests the tone of the book is rather aggressive (which I think is a bit counterproductive) but if you can read past that there's a lot of good information.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

An influence on my views was reading an abridged Bible on my own when I was a child to see what my family’s doctrine actually is and to critically examine the merits of its values and realism. School science textbooks also provided some insight into the physical world and its implications.

A unique element of atheism relative to other religious views is that there isn’t a unifying dogma. Generally, atheists agree on evolution and The Big Bang and just basic science stuff, so some elementary literature or media on those could be a start. However, it’s possible to be an atheist and not believe in these things and to instead believe that everything happens and happened for some non-deistic magic reason or because of some other off-the-wall idiosyncratic theory without scientific backing.

Fundamentally, you should ask yourself if you’re interested in atheism due to doubting the feasibility of deities; or if you’re doubting there being a meaning or purpose to life and the universe; or if you’re doubting that your concept of deities could perform certain actions, such as standing by while tragedy happens (or perhaps you’ve got some other reason?). From there, you can direct yourself to the field of study of your choice: scientific, philosophy, and world religions, respectively, but be sure to branch out into the other two options.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You understand my current state of mind.

I just stopped believing in existence of deities and the existence of inherent meaning of life (not to mistake it with value of life).

The world is just a mess beyond our comprehension and we tend to attribute random events beyond our comprehension to the grand plan of things.

I do think that life is much more beautiful with the acceptance of atheism, mortality (no afterlife), personal and sexual freedom. I tend to just enjoy the moment and the life I have while I still have it knowing that this is it, this isn't a preparation for what comes next. This is it.

I'm still against mocking religion because I find it to be in poor taste, in the same vein like mocking someones gender, nationality, sexual orientation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’m gathering from your comment that you’re being motivated by disillusion and disappointment in the universe, rather than a purely logical approach? While I am an advocate for atheism, I don’t know if you’re looking at it for the most sound of reasons. I will play devil’s advocate (badum-tss) to clarify some things about the belief system for you. 

There’s a well-known quote by Epicurus that comes to mind:

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. 

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. 

Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? 

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

You see that there is evil in the universe, but that could be explained by an uncaring or malicious deity. If there is a deity that knows of the universe’s evil and chooses not to stop it even though it would not ail the deity any to do so, then that deity is evil and undeserving of worship. 

I’m slightly an agnostic-atheist (even though I think the term itself is a bit sloppy), since I think it’s technically plausible (but essentially unknowable) that an astronomically large being could have created the Earth and its inhabitants through scientific and/or mechanical means but for their own entirely selfish and uncaring reasons. The deity in the poorly received film Eternals is the closest representation I’ve seen to what I consider to be a plausible “creator”, since he created Earth and its life to selfishly exploit them for his own species’ natural procreation, and he achieved this through scientific and mechanical means such as a factory forge (you’ll have to ignore the little bit of literal magic that he does perform in the movie).

Atheism also does not categorically conclude that there isn’t an afterlife, but most atheists would believe that there is not one. Maybe when we die, the electro-chemical signals in our brains get turned into antimatter and get zapped over to another dimension? It may be an off-the-wall notion and be fundamentally unprovable and non-disprovable, but atheism does not require a belief that there is no afterlife.

Not having to abide by the arbitrary rules and dictations of religions can be freeing, but don’t get carried away and think that nothing matters or that you’re okay to take up any vice or do any crime. Religions have sometimes plugged in the wrong formula and accidentally got the right answers, like “Thou shalt not kill” or “Thou shalt not commit adultery”, which generally will be destructive and hurt undeserving people if you violate them. 

I think of religious views as just another set of beliefs, and I consider any belief that is ridiculously detached from observable reality, contradictory, taken up without evidence, or devoid of empathy to be a belief deserving of being mocked and scorned. I don’t grant an exception on the merits of categorization or level of conviction or personal attachment, though I do circumstantially avoid mocking it out of courtesy.

Hope this helps clarify some things and that you make the best of your future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago
  • Léo Taxil - The Amusing Bible
  • James George Frazer - The Golden Bough
  • Mircea Eliade - A History of Religious Ideas
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

What sort of background are you coming from? That might help recommendations. This is a great resource for example if you're coming from a YEC background, but not so much for other backgrounds that don't deny science:

https://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html

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