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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I have absolutely no faith in this project whatsoever, there is a 99% chance itll fail like all Linux phones and tbh they all deserve to. Not a single mobile Linux OEM has even the slightest idea what the average person wants, hell im a highly technical Linux enthusiast and it doesn't even do what I want. The average person wants:

  1. Long battery life
  2. Fast charging
  3. A good screen
  4. Decent performance
  5. A good camera
  6. Software good enough to tie everything together in a cohesive experience (this one especially they lack in)

Meanwhile more technical people (such as myself) want:

  1. Good security (both hardware level security and software level security)
  2. A relockable bootloader (with it being locked from shipping)
  3. Extended software support (including firmware and microcode updates)
  4. The ability to seamlessly work on multiple different sim networks
  5. Longevity (I should not need to get a new one once every three years)
  6. Reparability
  7. Software that can accommodate technical usecases without falling apart

Meanwhile Linux phones:

  1. Can be a portable programming station (why???? No genuenly why would anyone want to do this???? Just get a cheap Thinkpad)
  2. Can run desktop software (ok thats neat I guess but not neat when all the software is optimized for desktops, the downsides to this completely overshadow any tiny benefit this may provide)
  3. Have support for multiple mobile Linux distros (congratulations, you have multiple choices and they all suck)
  4. Have support multiple WMs/DEs (and they're all either under maintained, not maintained at all, or they just suck)
  5. Have extensive software customization (its a phone, why on earth would I want that???)
  6. Are cheap (sometimes, also I can just get a cheap used Google Pixel 7)
  7. Run faster (except not when you take into account the significantly worse hardware)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dont want that of a beast but only a cheap and decent smartphone that will supported by most of the Mobile Linux Distros to use a phone completely privately instead of using android

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So a Pixel? Cause every distro I look up Pixels are on it since they are open.

But yea same boat I'm trying to replace my Samsung 21u with something like the pixel and Graphite OS or Lineage OS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I would like to have the real Linux phones Not just a pixel running a alternative android

[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 days ago (4 children)

A few points:

  1. LiberuxNexx sounds like a medication's marketing name.
  2. It says "2TB storage" then in the details it's actually 256GB + microSD support, which IMHO is very different.
  3. To me, this just sounds like a new version of the PinePhone Pro or Librem 5. Yes, it's got newer & better hardware, but there's no release date or even price.
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

No it doesn't, when have you ever taken LiberuxNexx two times daily? It sounds like some guy's username on X

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

I want this to be good, but I agree with all these points, right down to the possibility that we may never even see this thing released.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What happened to librem anyway? They used to be all the rage, now it's nothing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They’re still available for sale and they post development updates every month.

It’s just not a popular device.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

With the first model costing 2K USD for a mediocre device (4GB RAM, 128GB storage) it's not surprising that they're not that popular. Their 700 USD model only has 3GB of RAM.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The market is saturated with 'high end' smartphones. We need fresh competition for budget options.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hope the emphasis on wireless display tech doesn't mean they are skimping on usb-c video out. That is the only bugger I currently see.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Please yes usbc alt dp alt with 4x4k120 hdr mst support

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

I'm all for it but it's in the cowdfunding stage. We'll have to see what becomes of it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This feels off. Just the hardware configuration doesnt make any sense. The soc will be over 5 years old when this thing releases. Those four a76 cores @ 2,4 Ghz wont wow you with their performance and would be a downgrade compared to a flagship with a SD865 released 5 years ago. Which is alright by its own tbh. But why the fuck combine it with 32gb of ram? Thats just excessive and apart from hyper specific edge cases this just doesnt make any sense. Especially when looking at the eMMC storage. Personally i already find UFS 3.1 painfully slow when it comes to desktopish usecases sometimes. But eMMC is just pure ass.

This is like buying a pre built with a 12100f with 128gb of ram and only harddrives as storage. Like there is probably a really small market for that. But for everybody else it would be just such a bad choice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (21 children)

The new eMMCs are 400MB/s (so SATA-ish level) with random writes about there as well, it depends what specifically they'll be using. It's also more power efficient than SSDs, however it can't address more than 256GB (so consider SD speeds too).

There also isn't anything wrong with having a lot of RAM if it doesn't impact the battery considerably. Which it prob does.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This has been tried a few times now. Why will this one succeed?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It won't outside small niches. If people can't use their banking apps, it's dead before release.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I agree, Android phones will not have a chance at being successful unless it has a translation layer to run Android apps.

I know things like that exist, but I don’t think it’s anywhere close to having a high compatibility.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Mine doesn't even care if the phone is rooted, and most of the stuff can be done via a web interface. On the flip side of the coin, this shithole has SMS as the only available "2FA" method

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately with security apps like banking, being able to run android apps is only one of the roadblocks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Although, maybe the banks website could word reasonably well in a browser. But, the mobile wallet apps would be a problem I bet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some banks require you to have a phone app now. I know mine is app only.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know I can do the web for basics stuff, but I need the apps to make payment with qr-codes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I can only check transactions. Any actions require the app.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It bugs me how, within a month after Apple releases a new iPhone, small-time manufacturers put together the hardware, custom ROMs, and tooling to pump out bespoke knock-offs of the latest model. Which sell for maybe $200. While we're stuck worrying that the development of a new Linux phone, with completely ordinary hardware by today's standards, might get mismanaged to hell or ends up costing a fortune.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"linux phone"

Don't make me tap the sign

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

@KarnaSubarna it needs to be able to run Netflix, banking apps and McD app (has very high security requirements - hard to get working on LineageOS f.ex.
If it solves those - I think it could be hugely popular - as the first fully useable phone, for those wanting to regain control over their phone and data.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

It needs to run the McD app... JFC....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is running the McDonald’s app the “can it run doom” of FOSS Linux phones or are you just morbidly obese?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@ocean LOL. we almost never eat there - but I've just noticed its the one app that has the highest security requirements (and my kids ask if I have an offer from mcd they can use when we pass it :) - so its the only app I never made run on LineageOS (netflix etc. I got working fine). So its a good test.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That’s quite funny that’s the case :) How’re you enjoying the OS? Do other fast food apps like BK work?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

@ocean and yes - its really absurd that my bank apps "just work" - but netflix (I get that with DRM crap requirements) and then McD has so high security requirements. really annoying MicroG can't implement this - afaik because of google's proprietary "security level" whatever check.. but managed to "fix" enough for everything but mcd last time.. haven't solved it on latest LineageOS unfortunately :(
Annoying Chromecast is proprietary, really hope @EUCommission would look into monopoly of it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@ocean I've been using LineageOS for 7+ years. Always preferred full open source. got 99% working (all except that mcd app :)
I'd be able to move many to an open source app - but only those of us who can live with stuff like this - is going to use it, if it can't support it. We really should fix these silly things, so we can run open source on our phones too - instead of our laptops only.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

What phones have you been using it on? I’ve been interesting in a FOSS phone. I also don’t like that only my computers and servers can run Linux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just use browser If it doesn't run in browser Then you don't need it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I thought this was the first usable linux phone?

https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wao, this is not bad at all. I wonder how it behaves as a daily driver. It would probably be easy for me to adopt as I don't have a single mainstream app in my phone at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Thanks so much. This is really in-depths.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Bookmarked, will definitely give this a look.

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