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I couldn't come with a better title.

As previously explained, I changes wards, a doctor working for more than 35 years at my old unit wrote me an excellent recommendation letter and I went my merry way to my new ward, hoping to find something new.

I introduced myself to nurses and some doctors there. Because the nurses were yelling and punching tables, something I'd never seen from nurses, I started a conversation with the doctors about what abbreviations they use there (completely foreign to me), if they allow their nurses to take blood samples or arterial and venous blood gas probes, to decide if a patient needs blood cultures, to do an EKG without consulting a doctor first, what emergencies they have there...

I had lucky with one of the doctors who answered all my questions.

The next day, my new boss comes to me saying people complained about me talking to the doctors, accused me of playing being a doctor.

I asked if the doctor who answered my questions, Schimdt, complained. My boss refused to identify the person who complained.

My reaction to that was to say that this person could have talked to me instead of escalating, I also told my boss that I'm going to ask no matter what because I want to be a better nurse and the best suited people to do that are doctors (because most of the nurses only want to gossip, whereas doctors are more cerebral and explain correlations, I didn't say this out loud).

His answer was telling me to stop talking to the doctors, otherwise there would be consequences.

2 hours after he left an Anesthesiologist I didn't know came to check some PCAs, so me being me, started asking questions about the device and given that I'm thinking about studying medicine I asked about it and he told me where he studied, what he did afterwards, started showing me the documentation anesthesiologists use.

This is something I cannot avoid, I like talking to smart people. My new boss seems to be like my old one, only wanting dumbed down nurses.

Other nurses I asked at the unit told me that no, I'm not supposed to be smart, but just a drone.

It's ridiculous I have to censor myself. The best I can think of is to play theatrics while he's at the unit but be me when he leaves.

If you claim I'm talking to the doctors as an excuse not to do my job, you are wrong. I need the money and I use my downtime to learn.

It's true that people believe what they want to believe and judge you in 5 seconds.

Is there a better strategy than playing theatrics?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

2 hours after he left an Anesthesiologist I didn't know came to check some PCAs, so me being me, started asking questions about the device and given that I'm thinking about studying medicine I asked about it and he told me where he studied, what he did afterwards, started showing me the documentation anesthesiologists use.

Are you being considerate of the doctors' time and attention? They have work to be doing. As in this example, he came in to check PCAs. Sometimes people can even volunteer information (like showing you the documentation anesthesiologists use), but maybe because they feel socially compelled in that moment to do so even when they should be on task.

Another possibility - maybe your boss is trying to maintain cohesion between nurses. You seem to have a fairly low opinion of the other nurses. Separating yourself and trying to speak only with the doctors kinda demonstrates an intentional division with new co workers that is liable to lead to larger problems working together down the line. Maybe he expects you not to respect their judgment calls, or to put doctors in a tough position by saying, "doctor x told me we do things THIS way" when that process is all-but-on-paper owned by nurses.

I know you're viewing your situation as learning, trying to get smarter, intentional curiosity - but I don't really think that's the problem your boss has. Maybe if you accomplished this in a different way, he wouldn't complain. Your boss definitely doesn't want you to be dumb.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It may not be the doctors complaining.

While not exactly the dynamic between doctors and nurses, I've had to be a "doctor" and deal with people in a "nurse" role. The typical "nurses" enforced a hierarchy where they didn't have to make technical decisions and their work was crap as a result. I got one "nurse" who was proactive and was an asset to my team, but they got pushed out since they didn't play the game the way other "nurses" did.

The person who did the firing was surprised that I thought so highly of the "nurse" who was fired.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Is it possible you don't read people well and don't communicate as well as you think? It could be the doctor(s) you were chatting up thought it was a bit too much. I'm only suspicious of this because you've been posting about having problems interacting with people at your workplace (new and old wards) for a long time now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I'm wondering if OP is borderline interrogating the doctors with a billion questions, and doesn't know when to stop when both of them have other work they need to be doing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

This is an important thing to consider. I think what I would suggest is find a way to get impartial people together and talk to . People who will actually be honest with you and tell you hey this is what’s really going on. I’d say make friends at work this will take time. Then ask them. Another suggestion is sometimes one hospital will put out calls for nurses to come in and help out from another hospital. Sometimes they will call other states. Volunteer for those jobs. Usually those jobs last from one to three months. At the end of that period of time to sit down with your bossand your coworkers and ask them about this. I mean, you are now leaving their unit. Maybe they’ll be completely honest with you and say yes you are a great person or maybe they’ll say holy crap. You never stop talking you’re really annoying.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Fuck that shit. Find a new ward immediately. That is not a place anyone should be.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My mom was a nurse and they do critical work that I greatly respect. So please nobody think I'm trying to demean or condescend the profession, but... it sounds like you want to do more in medicine. You seem curious and motivated. So I say focus completely on that if you agree! Smile, agree to everything you're told, but commit to achieving your long-term goals and make that the priority! Of course, if switching to a different ward in the short-term would make life easier, do that as well...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Talk to the boss’s and explain the situation? I can’t imagine that to be a healthy work environment, I can’t imagine the company wanting their employees to not learn.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Did the boss seem like this was a big deal to them?

Is it possible that there's a chronic complainer that constantly runs to the boss? He might just be saying something about it because it's the only way to shut them up, and he really doesn't care that much.

It just seems like such a silly thing to reprimand somebody for. Unless someone was trying to find you for work reasons and you were off somewhere chatting, then I might understand, but I do see that you said that wasn't the case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

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