You seem to have had something like mint and thyme in mind as an example of herbal medicine, but try to substitute something like marijuana and nightshade to see that your description doesn't fit all of the herbs. The only thing I agree is that effects often come coupled and you have to do something to isolate necessary ones.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While marijuana and nightshade (and coffee) would be herbal "medicine" substitute for MDMA, DMT, nicotine, cocaine etc,
the others you mentioned would be a substitute for Chlorpheniramine Maleate, phenylpropanolamine and the likes.

So if a herbal medicine doctor is prescribing you marijuana for cough and cold, you can perhaps consider it being a quack. Same for someone prescribing SSRIs to a functioning adult that works 40 hours a week, on their first visit.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My point was more along the lines that herbal doesn't mean safe, mild, slow, etc

[–] ulterno@programming.dev -3 points 1 day ago

It would definitely be milder and slower.
Safe? Nothing is.

If you want to fuck with your brain, then doesn't matter whether you choose poppy seeds or IV its refined chemical. You will still fuck your brain.
And coffee is pretty much an addiction.

The difference is that with the former, you would at least know what is happening to you before you turn yourself into an invalid.
And for those who said they didn't know what was happening... No. Your body gave you the signs and you decided to ignore them.

Allopathic drugs are measured in mg and some even in µg, while you will see ayurvedic stuff being talked about in grams or tens of grams, simply because they are less refined.