A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. ....

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Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. ...

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

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[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 10 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

That's why I left. Its such a weird authoritarian way of dealing with stuff. Just ban everything and everyone you don't agree with. Also make it a collective punishment while we're at it...

[–] Salamence@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Im sorry how is making an instance vote a "weird authoritarian way of dealing with stuff"? Or is authoritarism when someone does something you dont agree with?

[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Go to their matrix channels, they're throwing around ACAB, generalizing people and if you don't support nuking israel, you will be banned for supporting the genocide. There is no debate, there is no discussion its a hive that moves into a certain direction and if you don't you are an outcast. Words do still mean things and acting like you can't govern democratically and authoritarian at the same time makes no sense.

Also acting like every community on feddit.org is a genocide supporting shithole is just crazy. The fediverse lives from its interoperability across the knots. I am a grown ass adult, I don't need DB0 to make the moral decision for me with whom I can interact and with whom I can not. What I think is quite ironic, is the fact that even though the instance is "anarchistic", everyone is licking the boots of the governing authority pretty good. I guess you either die a hero or live long enough to become a power tripping bastard yourself.

[–] thirdworldistWMD@lemmy.zip -1 points 29 minutes ago

and if you don’t support nuking israel, you will be banned for supporting the genocide.

Based Instance waow-based

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[–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The issue starts beforehand. It's easy to get an instance vote to agree with you if you ban and insult everybody on your instance who is not agreeing with you. That works exactly like those voter registration purges the Trump admin is doing.

[–] thirdworldistWMD@lemmy.zip 0 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago) (1 children)

Oh nooo, not ze poor dbzer0 zionist users, who lost the previous vote to 85% of the instance, thats just like ze Maga

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[–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 points 23 minutes ago

Thanks for linking that, that proves my point. If you have banned all "pro-zionist users" (whatever that is), it is no surprise that the next vote for banning a "pro-zionist instance" will also go succeed. Let's have another vote in a few weeks proposing to ban all users who were against banning that "pro-zionist instance"! Democracy at work!

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 hours ago

That's literally the best and fairest way to deal with that kind of stuff here. No risky permissivity, no manhunts / withchunts, no putting the onus on other people. db0 as an instance is weird for a lot of thigs, but honestly, compared to the rest of the world, not on that.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't particularly love db0 as a mainly hexbear user, but this is ridiculous. They did an absolutely gorgeous move by democratically voting to defed from Zionist instances, and you call that authoritarian. Defense against fascists is not authoritarian, it's literally the opposite.

[–] thirdworldistWMD@lemmy.zip 2 points 49 minutes ago

to the saurkraut, to be against genocide is a form of authoritarism germany-cool

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's authoritarian to do direct democracy? OK then, I guess words mean nothing anymore.

[–] Magnum@infosec.pub -2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The vote itself is not. This is not just about this single vote.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 hours ago

What is it about then?

[–] seawoowaes@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

They really lost the plot when they joined the tankie triad.