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[–] bioluminescence@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

What does this mean for GrapheneOS and similar degoogled android versions?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 33 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Nothing changes for now but other moves by Google clearly show they are trying to kill 3rd party ROMs by locking down Android's code. In my opinion, unless EU steps in and mandates phone manufacturers and Google to support google free apps we're fucked.

[–] lbfgs@programming.dev 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

EU wants phones to be locked down so they can then make Google implement mass surveillance for "national security" reasons

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The EU has no interest in allowing privacy on devices, since it is increasingly attempting to control alternative narratives. We're in touching distance of the Fourth Reich now.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Europe has explicitly no problem with this. They showed they have the power to censor Russian media but refuse to do this with European far-right, they just want the local fascists to win.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Riverside@reddthat.com -4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Even the premise is too generous:

Why would the leaders of the EU—a project ostensibly built on peace and sovereignty—

How on Earth is the literal cradle of Fascism and colonialism built on peace and sovereignty? The EU is built on neoliberalism and anticommunism, it cannot be built on peace or sovereignty.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Remember that the EU arose in part from the institutions set up to deter the same type of nationalist fascism rising again, such as the ECSC. Sadly, we may have encouraged Russian -funded American -spread international fascism in its place, although they don't seem to control the EU yet.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Fascism is not even Russian funded or American spread, Europe is perfectly capable of growing its own fascism as we saw 100 years ago, sadly we're going down the same road.

[–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 3 points 4 hours ago

Would not be sure about that. There has been steps in opposite directions in the past. Remember the regulation regarding 3. party app Stores on IOS, or even further back in the past the "Free Brwoser Choice" in MS-Windows.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 5 hours ago

It is surely called competition law?

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

While it does not affect them directly, it is unlikely most app developers will give significant effort to only support a small percentage of Android users running custom ROMs. So while GrapheneOS users will be able to install apps, there will likely not be that many apps to install.

Edit: What I mean is that most applications will have to choose to either agree to google terms and identify themselves, or develop only for custom ROMs, or stop developing altogether. And I don't think many will choose the 2nd option. Also, 1st option may not be available if google does not like your app.

[–] i078@europe.pub 11 points 5 hours ago

The european movement away from american stuff however is increasing, I’m hopeful that Jolla, Fairphone and the ROM world will actually increase in importance and numbers

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm writing this on a GOS Pixel tablet with only free/libre installation sources. There are quite enough applications to install.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Please see edit of my comment. Since it seems my point did not get across, I elaborated. Of course there are plenty right now since there are no barriers yet.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

GrapheneOS is not limited by Google, as long as the bootloader is unlockable and Google contnues releasing the sources. Longterm, the GOS project needs to support alternative hardware platforms.

There are Linux tablets, so if Android is dead open source developers will support these.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It's the other way around. GrapheneOS users will be able to install all the apps but stock Android users will not be able to install apps from F-Droid and other alternative sources*. F-Droid will lose access to about 99% of the market.

*Technically it will still be possible for open source devs to distribute apps to stock Android users but it will require handing Google your personal information and setting up way more complicated build configuration.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Please see the edit with clarification, since I guess I wrote it poorly and multiple commenters did not get my point.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yeah, uh, no alarm bells in the market watchdogs? None at all?