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Joule is the metric system unit to measure the energy in food, however we still see calories being used everywhere, specially advertising and fitness influencers. Let's stop this nonsense.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Every packaging in the EU already includes kilojoules as unit for energy content of food.
You can't force influencers to use them, you can only force companies and government bodies.
And in some cases, using metric would simply be worse in daily life.
Like using Kelvin instead of Celcius, meters per second instead of kilometers per hour, seconds in general instead of hours and days...
Fun fact: The fuel consumption of a car that needs 10 litres / 100 km (24 miles per gallon) could be simplified to 0.1 mm^2^ .
Is it metric? Yes. Is it practical? Not really.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Celsius is basically the same as Kelvin, it just puts 0 in a different place.

See Wikipedia:

By definition, the Celsius scale (symbol °C) and the Kelvin scale have the same magnitude; that is, a rise of 1 K is equal to a rise of 1 °C and vice versa, and any temperature in degrees Celsius can be converted to kelvin by adding 273.15.[1][5]

[–] Jako302@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Most people that know what Kelvin is also know that is the same scale as Celsius, but that doesn't mean its equally is convenient in everyday use.

The single best thing about the Celsius scale (and pretty mich the only thing that makes it better than Fahrenheit except of familiarity) is that 0°C is placed at the most impactful Temperature point for normal people.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

You seem to confuse metric with SI units. And prefixes for the base units (like km instead of 1000m) do exist in the SI system.

[–] NorskSud@lemmy.pt 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not forcing anyone, I'm trying to influence them to use joules instead

[–] mech@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your title says the EU should use Joules.
The EU already does use Joules for food.
Not sure what you mean. Influencers aren't the EU.

[–] NorskSud@lemmy.pt 3 points 1 week ago

I mean EU in the widest sense including us, the EU citizens, including personal trainers and marketing people.

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Also packages are made for different country so they need to contain the specific info

[–] excral@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago
[–] FleetingTit@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Celsius, l/100km, and kph are still all metric.

[–] Joyje@feddit.nu -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

And in some cases, using metric would simply be worse in daily life.

No?

Like using Kelvin instead of Celcius

They are the same thing. They just use different starting points.

meters per second instead of kilometers per hour

Meters per second and kilometers per hour are both the same system, called the metric system.

seconds in general instead of hours and days

What are you on about? Seconds, hours and days are all part of the same system.

Fun fact: The fuel consumption of a car that needs 10 litres / 100 km (24 miles per gallon) could be simplified to 0.1 mm2

Actually yes. 10 L = 10 dm^3 = 10 000 cm^3. That means 10 L / 100 km = 10 000 cm^3 / 100 km.

To simplify further:

10 000 cm^3 / 100 km =

10 cm^3 / 100 m =

0.1 cm^3 / 100 cm =

0.001 cm^3 / 1 cm =

0.001 cm^2 =

0.1 mm^2

Is it metric? Yes. Is it practical? Not really.

It was already metric from the start before any mathematical simplification was done, so the metric system was definitely practical here.

Is the simplest mathematical form always the same as the simplest practical form? Definitely not, but that has nothing to do with the metric system.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

kilometers per hour are both the same system, called the metric system.

hour are not a metric unit though?

[–] Joyje@feddit.nu 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hour isn't the SI unit for time, but it is still accepted as a non-SI unit within the metric system.

https://metricsystem.net/non-si-units/units-whose-names-include-non-si-units/kilometre-per-hour/

[–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you're gonna correct someone, be correct.
Your further simplification ignores that one of the units is cubed.

[–] Joyje@feddit.nu 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What do you mean? I wrote cubed as ^3 throughout the entire explanation.

[–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You edited your comment 16 minutes ago. When I wrote my reply you had your units wrong.

[–] Joyje@feddit.nu 2 points 1 week ago

Yes. I eventually noticed my mistake and corrected it. 👍Thanks for pointing it out.