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[–] Gamechanger@slrpnk.net 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

How the fuck would you determine this?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

We researched publicly listed companies for each country in Europe, then used DNS lookups to identify the mail exchange records for each company’s domain. This let us determine what company they use as their email service or email security service providers. And as email is the foundation of most business tech suites, we expect most companies that use US-based email providers also use other their services, like cloud storage, for example.

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[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

So this is just a Proton ad.

If US email providers were forced to stop serving European users then AWS, Microsoft, Google and so on too, which I think has a lot more impact than your mail not working.

[–] SirHaxalot@nord.pub 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I feel it’s very important to point out that specifically email is one of the most common things to outsource. Hosting your own email is simply one of the harder things to run on your own, having to deal with anti-spam measures, IP reputation tracking and the risk of other providers blocking you if one of your users are compromised and used to send spam.

My point being that yes, you are somewhat likely to use other Cloud products but it’s not a good indicator for how dependent the core business is on cloud providers.

Tracking specifically email is probably the best thing if your goal is to create an infographic where the dependence numbers are as high as possible though.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is my personal experience as well with small companies: mail servers are usually in the cloud, company servers are usually on premise, cloud backups are usually with smaller regional companies. Assuming that the mail server is indicative of every other digital activity, is a flawed methodology.

[–] SirHaxalot@nord.pub 2 points 5 hours ago

Indeed and the only thing I have ever seen a larger company running is Microsoft Exchange, but MS is actively pushing to cloud here. I also know a few people who work with Exchange and they kind of hate it.

The option has the traditional open source stack I guess with Postfix, Dovecot, Spamassassin, some Webmail client, and then you have to make sure that SPF, DMARC, and DKIM signing works... It becomes a lot so I understand why none willingly wants to deal with this. That said there are some more modern alternatives like Stalwart mail server that combines the first three services into one and something I'm considering to try out.

[–] Gamechanger@slrpnk.net 13 points 9 hours ago

I don't think this proofs anything. Would it be painfull?... yes... would they go dark?...no

"Who is using gmail internally?"

I am surprised that so many do not, actually.

And it would not "go dark" for more than 24 hours. It would however crash the NASDAQ pretty hard as the talking point in all EU companies as soon as email is restored would be "ok, what else do we need to bring back? Give me the list of EU and Chinese alternative to everything US we currently use."

Banking is actually probably the biggest dependency, with EU working hard at making it possible to operate in the case VISA and Mastercard stop serving local businesses, like they did to the ICC