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[–] SpacePanda@mander.xyz 49 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Generation Z (born 1997-2006) 23.1%

Millennials (born 1981-1996) 14.2%

Generation X (born 1965-1980) 5.1%

Baby boomers (born 1946-1964) 3.0%

Silent Generation (born 1945 or earlier) 1.8%

https://news.gallup.com/poll/332522/percentage-americans-lgbt.aspx

Personally I think these numbers reflect levels of acceptance amonst generation vs actual % lgbtq+. Real number is probably closer to Gen z stats I would think.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

LOL I don’t think people just suddenly became more gay over the last 80 years. This more likely reflects how people publicly identify and society’s acceptance and perceptions.

I’d bet the distribution across the spectrum has been roughly the same since humans had the concept of such social constructs.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These damn computers are turning gen z gay

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's the hormones in the water

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I like how people pretend that lots of kids aren't using it as a means to profile themselves socially without actually being queer, because it's the hip in-group thing to do.

I have a nephew who came out as trans a couple of years ago. Literally nothing changed, looks the same, acts the same, dresses the same, behaves the same, only changed his name and gender randomly one day. And everyone has to accept that because not to do so would be a horrific crime against humanity for some reason.

As if kids don't make up dumb shit about themselves for attention, out of peer pressure, to fit in, as a fashion statement, to use as a shield to hide behind, to use as a moral superiority mechanism and berate others who don't unconditionally accept whatever they say, or as a means to get sympathy.

The discourse is pretty ridiculous. Is trans a real thing? Absolutely. Is "queer" a social movement that is subject to the same social psychological dynamics as literally all other cultural norms? Absolutely.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The reason the discourse is so scuffed is because pro-trans advocates have had to dig their heels in so much because of the fact there are plenty of anti-trans advocates who would happily lynch trans people. It's basically don't give an inch or they'll take a mile shit, which shouldn't be a thing but they aren't wrong either.

As for teens doing that, eh worst case scenario they waste some time and effort resulting in something to embarrass them with in a couple years. Better to get the data and figure out why rather than skipping forward 20 years and realizing that's why they were so miserable.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely agreed on all points. Glad to see the reaction wasn't knee-jerking calling me transphobic, because I'm anything but.

[–] SpacePanda@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm sure there are some that do this. Thats why I say I think the 25% is probably the accurate statistic. Kids will be kids and people are programmed to be social and do what needs to be done to fit in socially or they will be ostrosized from the village/pack. On the other hand I'm sure there are also plenty of people who will identity as cis. For similar social reasons or personal ones.

Edit: wanted to add I think in second sentence

Also like to add I feel @vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works is probably right

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

Not just acceptance but also expanding definitions probably. That + has taken on a lot more meanings in the last few decades. A lot of people who didn't think they fit in a narrow definition before now have more options to allow self-determination.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Unfortunately not just levels of acceptance I'd wager. But survival rates.

[–] tensorpudding@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Many who died from AIDS, for instance.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think you're downplaying the importance of formative years to an individual's sexual identity by quite a lot.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social -2 points 2 weeks ago

I think a lot of that is made up from people who are queer as a fashion statement in lieu of possessing an actual personality, but that is anathema for the discourse so let's not talk about it.