In b4 someone calls me a tankie
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I wouldn't call you a tankie for using quotes of faux communist figures saying genuinely pro-communism things.
Their messaging is usually on point. Its their actions where they shift from communism to authoritarian state capitalism or outright fascism.
Lol I bet you think communism can only ever exist as a protest movement and the minute communists gain any kind of political power you immediately call them authoritarian/tankie/state capitalist/fascist. Take this idea to a meeting of any real world communist party and you'll be laughed at.
If I'm wrong, tell me what you consider to be genuine communism as opposed to "faux" communism.
Real communists understand the very mixed history of "communist" countries of the past and present. There are virtually zero actually communist countries in the world. That is factually true. What you want to believe is tankie logic... You are a tankie if you disagree with the statement: There is no such thing as communism with a ruling class.
I'm not a marxist, but this point doesn't make sense to me. "Communist countries" aren't called that because they have somehow managed to achieve a communist society (which would be impossible to exist in a capitalist world), but because they are ruled by a governent that is ruled by a group/party which is (or at the very least claims to be) ideologically communist..
No, they are not ideologically communist. A ruling party is by definition not communist. They are diometrically opposed.
Even having an identifiable "owning class", let alone anything close to a "ruling class" is also definitionally not communist.
Being ideologically communist simply means that you believe the ideal society is a communist society. Theoretically, you could be the king of britain and still be a communist.
I'm sure there are many people who are members of communist parties who are not actual communists, but there are some true believers who think they are working towards a communist society in the far future by building up state power in order to "compete" with capitalist/imperialist forces.
Again, I doubt their methods will work. I don't think you can work towards a stateless society by strenghtening the state. But I'm not gonna deny their ideals because I don't like their approach.
Real communist logic is that these governments were supposed to be temporary. They're supposed to exist to transition into actual communism, where the people control the state and own the means of production, not a dictatorship. The states that call themselves communist but have a dictator are, at best, the same as a caterpillar calling itself a butterfly. Maybe it aspires to be that, but it isn't yet, and may never be.
400-500 years is technically temporary.
No, dipshit. I desperately do hope the ideals of communism come to fruition and that I live to see them in my lifetime.
But no self proclaimed communist nation has ever even remotely bodied the core principles of communism.
Most importantly the proletariat owning the means of production and the elimination of the system of capital.
You will never see them because they are fantasy. The "not real communism" thing has always been a hilariously bad argument. It absolutely reeks of western-centric liberal democracy and a lack of understanding of theory. And that's why you will never have political power, because you have a contradictory idea of communism. All rhetoric and no substance.
A so-called communist who just happens to hate all major communist movements of the past, and dwells on the biggest liberal instance of the fediverse, that's like some kind of ironic joke.
Its just factual reality.
No self proclaimed communist country is communist, socialist, or even leftist on most issues.
I beg you to counter this reality with any evidence whatsoever that isn't typical regurgitated tankie smooth brain bullshit.
Do tell me how the massacre of his own citizens and the gulag system of Stalin's reign fits the ideals of Marx.
How does collectivizing and reaping all the value from the labor of the captive peasants fit the ideals of proletariat rule?
Tell me how the Kim Dynasty forcing their people into isolation, concentration camps and to worship their leader as a god, gives its working class the means of production.
Explain how China expanding into Tibet, starving 40 million of its own people, invading Vietnam and massacring student protestors in Tianamen Square, spreads the freedom and prosperity Marx preached for the working class.
We can walk through every self proclaimed communist nation and completely dismantle their claims of communism by simply observing their actions.
You clearly don't understand anything about the theory of communism whatsoever.
Spread your psychological projection elsewhere.
You know who never got any real political power in self proclaimed communist nations?
The fucking proletariat
Yeah, I tend to hate communist movements that aren't actually communist movements and instead result in autocratic tyranny over the proletariat, sometimes putting them in a far worse position than they were in previously.
A foreign concept to tankies like you, I'm sure, but real communists actually want to achieve communism.
This takes yet another foreign concept to you tankies, which is
Hey dipshit, take a moment to look where the fuck you're dwelling right now.
And this place, unlike the bullshit faux communist tankie safe space you frequent like some sort of deranged MAGAt Facebook boomer does to Trump pages, actually welcomes discussion and promotion of communist ideals. Not the dumbfuck apologetics to fascists who slapped a "communist" aesthetic onto their reign of terror.
What do you consider to be genuine communism?
Nice strawman you got there.
I can't imagine what it would look like, on fire.
You’re literally yelling at someone who shares your goals. You suck at lefting.
Remember it's only leftist infighting when you disagree with them. If they disagree with you it's because you're a shitlib or something.
The current potus is fascist as he is thinks that antifia is a terrorist organization. He is also an authoritarian as he uses his new gistopo to round up immigrates. He is also using state capitalism to inrich himself and his buddies as he helps keep the a.i. bubble going. You don't need communism to be all those things. You can be a diaper potus and still be called those things.
If we're all equals, why am I not allowed to say what I want to when the General Secretary just put up 100 foot tall billboards saying that we must murder the priests?