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(Example is based on US politics, but could apply to any equally corrupt government) In this day and age, it's clear that rampant corruption is abound with mega corporations buying up politicians with relative pennies they found under their couches.

When words and calls to action fail. Why are there no crowdfunded grassroots movements that actively try to play the same bribery game. If anything, to finally shine a light on how broken the system is.

If the dollar has a voice, why not let the people's dollars speak?

Of course, this is clearly a terrible idea long term for any system to work like this, plus a bit of a race to the bottom.

The question is more along the line of: Has anyone actually tried this? If so, why/why not?

Be civil please.

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[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 16 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

OP has a point. You might be surprised how little money it takes to influence legislation. ABSCAM showed just how cheaply political favors can be purchased.

From there, our investigation led to southern New Jersey and on to Washington, D.C. Our criminal contacts led us to politicians in Camden who were willing to offer bribes to get our "business" a gambling license in Atlantic City. Then, when we expressed interest in their suggestion to get the sheik asylum in the U.S., these corrupt politicians arranged for us to meet some U.S. Congressmen who could make it happen with private legislation. For a price, of course: $50,000 up front and an extra $50,000 later.

When the dust settled, one senator, six congressman, and more than a dozen other criminals and corrupt officials were arrested and found guilty.

Admittedly, this was $100,000 in 1980 dollars, but even today, lobbyists don't give millions to politicians to get things passed.

Occupy Wall Street rounded up $400,000 to wipe out $15 million in medical debt not that long ago. I would think that a concerted effort by progressive organizations could collect millions to lobby politicians to write and pass progressive laws. I've often wondered why this doesn't happen.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 3 hours ago

When SOPA was a thing the politicians were bought for under $20k

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

To my knowledge the problem isn't getting together the funds for any single "contribution", it's having the funds to pay the politician off over and over again. Sure, half a million dollars sounds like a lot more than a hundred thousand, but how many times can that half million be successfully crowdfunded? It's much more reliable for the politicians to just accept the smaller but more consistent "contributions" from the more wealthy parties.

On top of that, outright bribery is illegal, attempting something like that is liable to get you arrested.

[–] Steve@communick.news 2 points 8 hours ago

We're not just looking at individual "donations" to single politicians. But hundreds of them, to all the politicians. And even more to create a massive "People's PAC" that gets continuous reliable funding for donations, adds, fake studies and all the other crap we have to fight.