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Fuck Akio and Toyota

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[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

They are literally the only ones who make a decent car anymore. Every other brand is horrible and constantly breaks down.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Hard disagree. Toyota has its lemons as well and people who bitch about problems far outweigh people who are happy and don’t say shit.

I’ve driven and owned Jeep (80-90 model), Eagle, Nissan, Mazda, Hyundai, and now Subaru and my vehicles have all been spectacular and lasted a long time with routine maintenance.

Do some model years or brands have some duds? Yeah. No one is perfect and plenty of other brands are just great.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

routine maintenance.

This is the real key here. I have had vehicles that have lasted forever because I took the time to learn what to check regularly and do a lot of my own diagnosis and basic repairs.

The idea of modern automobiles is actually absurd when you think about it. It's a massive combustion engine that starts up instantly, every day, multiple times and runs for thousands of hours, across huge distances at incredible speed and most of the time the operators never even think of it past refueling or cleaning the shell.

I owned generators and many other kinds of engines, and without incredible engineering they are a pain in the ass to keep running all the time. Heat and cold cycles, multiple fluids that have to interact, timing between components, a vast array of materials and different kinds of moving parts... we really take it for granted, and because of that the newer cars are designed to be more hands-off and harder and harder to actually maintain. They are now counting on people not giving a fuck and just buying a new one when it starts to "run funny."

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

Yes, exactly this. Many people just don’t do the basics and part of that is money. The labor costs are what get ya. The complexity of narrowing down what’s wrong as the cars are more computerized and have more electrical components also makes it difficult to diagnose even for the pros.

Key detail is that routine maintenance is important. Spark plugs, oil changes, flushes, timing belt, radiator, tires, brake pads, etc.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Toyota CHR was a certified peice of shit.

and I say this as I post from work at a Toyota Dealer.

apparentley they're bringing it back as either an EV or a plugin EV like the Rav Prime.

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Man, we had a Subaru outback for a while. Still miss the space, but the interior flooded every time it rained.

Turns out, the roof doesn't actually have a place to shed water externally - it drains through the car before going out the bottom. Apparently part of regular maintenance involves cleaning out that channel... and where we live has enough tree debris that it always clogged up early, and backed up into the passenger compartment.

Now, I don't know a lot about car design... but draining the roof through the body of the car, in such a way that you have to have a service tech see to it to keep it weatherproof? Makes me wonder what else might be waiting to go wrong.

[–] washbasin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

What model year was that? Never heard of such a thing. I suspect you had a defective car.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 12 hours ago

I don't know anything about them.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Ask owners of new Tundras what they think about “reliability”. But, It is true, Toyotas are so fucking basic in design, there is not much to break or wear out. They are 10 years behind most other companies.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Made in the USA btw. If you want a good Toyota, you have to get a J VIN car. (From Japan) The Mexican Tacoma's are ass too.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

All RAV4 are built in Canada.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Not all of them. Some hybrids are made in Japan as well. My wife's was. Granted, it was a 2016. From what I've read, they still make some there.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 19 hours ago

Idk I know they aren't perfect. I kind of dislike them more that their executives are maga. Still I wouldn't buy any other car because cars are too expensive to be buying dumb shit.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world -1 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Take a look at Volvo or Mercedes

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Volvo's offering in my country:
No prices on their website, so I checked out used Volvos, year 2025 and an XC40 starts at 36k EUR with 10k km on it.
I don't think this is a brand I can seriously get behind because I feel like they're trolling me.

[–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Also Volvo is as Swedish as Shanghai. Geely owns them and it shows.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago

Mercedes reliable? Not since the early 80s.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Dude Mercedes are garbage nowadays and Volvos are built by the Chinese. Honda is the obvious choice.