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Wow, he's really not reading the country very well is he? 2020, that was a 50/50 move, piss off half the country, earn the support from half of it. (again just talking on a purely business strategy), unless the millitary is about to buy a shitload of toyota's, I don't see how this isn't a horrific play.
They're a Japanese brand known for cheap, reliable, sensible cars, do they expect loyalty from the Make America Great Again crowd?
I wouldnt be surprised if MAGAts buys more overseas than the average American. Their whole merch is made in Asia.
Buying overseas isn't something kind of moral failure lmao bluMAGA. Who else but the skidoo dealership owner who drops 1K to fly to DC on J6 is paying 50K+ for a working class affect?
Im sorry, I didnt understand any of that.
If the MAGAts do buy foreign, that's not an effective line of attack, trying to out-nationalist the fascists by attacking them for buying foreign goods is depressingly in-line for libs whose only disagreement with Trump is aesthetic.
If MAGAts aren't buying the overpriced pick-ups Ford and GM are churning out, who is?
I didnt try to attack them for buying foreign, maybe I misunderstood your comment. I thought you meant Toyota being a Japanese brand would make it unattractive for them, thats what I was commenting on.
Except in North America, where a huge focus is on trucks. Just look at how some dipshit chud in Twitter got them to scrub a ton of their LGBT and DEI stuff by posting about their "woke" trucks when their did a pride flag Tacoma. They desperately want to take that market share as it's far, far more profitable than stuff like the Camry.
Oh. My '06 Solara is still running so I haven't had to actually compare brands in 15 years.
I don't think I'll be buying another car when it finally finishes shitting the bed, but if I have to it'll probably be a Honda. Those are still more reliable than anything american or euro at the same price-point right?
Sorry, deleted my comment because I didn’t want to get into a war with anyone about MSRP vs Dealer pricing.
Honda has been pretty good for years. I’ve seen scuttlebutt of people saying certain models, like the Civic, have dropped the ball lately but I cannot verify that.
I bought a Subaru Forester recently and it’s my first Subaru. LOVE it. I posted my pros in a comment above. My only con is the stupid large touch screen and the shitty software running it. I think that’s true of pretty much most brands lately though.
I think the business strategy here is sucking up to a dictator who can decide on a whim that Toyota is now the only American car brand allowed to be American and sell American cars. Or that Toyota parts are exempt from tariffs. Or that Toyotas are subsidised with 300% ontop by tax payer money. Looking at the current situation I dont even think this is a bad decision from a purely capitalist viewpoint, but its cowardly as fuck.
Tesla is not doing very well after Elon fully embraced Maga
Not really imo. They are doing about 100 times better than I could have imagined in my wildest dreams after what Elon pulled. Their stock went up from last year, they have a literal trillion dollars to spare for Elons pocket money. Sure, theres some whining about sales and internal troubles, most of it probably for show to make Donald Rapist cough up some tax payer money to "save the industry". I think we are at a point where reputation literally means nothing for a big corporation. Look at Nestle, they are evil in every single aspect, everyone knows it, and they are doing better than ever and dont see the need to change anything. Being evil simply works, and by now corporations are realizing they dont even have to pretend they arent anymore.
Unfortunately they kind of are... it's kind of the insanity of the system we live in... their car sales are down everywhere, but they are making more from government contracts and AI speculation.
Which yeah was part of why my added exception was if the military is going to buy a shit ton of toyotas. Government perks have ot outweigh loss in sales
the words you are looking for are crony capitalism and has 0 to do with actual tesla output
Japan has a new far-right-populist/Maga adjacent government. I'm sure that also plays into it somehow - both on Trump's side ("let's give good deals to our friends in spirit") and the CEO reading the room nationally. My first thought here is therefore opportunism, in its slimiest form.
These people are living in a different world than the rest of us. He IS reading the room, but we aren't even in the room that he's reading.
No, it always would have been a net loss.
Toyota sells a lot internationally while basically 0% of the international customers see Trump or MAGA in a positive light...
He's not vying for customers. He's sucking up to Trump in the hopes of getting preferential treatment for his company
We've seen over and over again, companies that praise him, or bribe him, are getting business advantages from the Trump administration
This is how fascism succeeds. Everyone falls in line and sucks up in the hopes of getting preferential treatment.
People ask "how did the Nazis do what they did?". This is how. This is exactly how.
2020, the height of his first term incompetence at height of COVID, a year so comically bad it has specials about it? Nah, maybe 2016-2019 it would be maybe near that, any time after, not at all.
I did mess that up, did mean early 2016, or even early 2024.