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Michelle Obama says US ‘not ready for a woman’ to be president: ‘Don’t even look at me about running’
(www.independent.co.uk)
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She's not. She's throwing out an easy answer to a very complex question. "Two ladies ran for President and lost? I guess ladies can't win the presidency."
But you could play this game with literally any presidential campaign and be wrong.
Obama beating Hillary in the primary in 2008 proves that our country hates women more than black people. And when he beat both McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012, it allowed us to conclude our country hates Veterans and Mormons.
Then Trump beat Hillary, proving the country hates women again (but not before Trump's primary win proved it hates Latinos, Black People, People Still on Their First Wife, and Ohioans). Then Biden beat Trump, proving the country hates Septuagenarians. Then Trump beat Harris, proving you need to be a billionaire before you'll be seriously considered for the White House.
And all but once when a woman was the VP on the ticket, the ticket lost. The only time when there was a woman on the ticket and the ticket was successful was after the first Trump term.
There's never been a woman that won any presidential primary (other than Hillary if you count that)
It's what /u/DarkFuture said; the US is a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and xenophobic trashcan. It always has been. This was the case back when America was more progressive; it's certainly the case today.
A full three time, total. Twenty four years between the first two of them.
How do you not? But in between Geraldine Fererra and Hillary Clinton we added 20 women senators and six governors.
Politics is a numbers game. You have to run before you can win. And I've seen very little evidence to suggest women do worse than men on average. By the number, they run at parity with their male colleagues. You simply have fewer candidates.
Why do you think that is? Might it be that strategists are reading the room (the country)? Nah, it couldn't be...
Is that a serious question? Are we going to ignore the DNC shenanigans around Hillary / Bernie?
I guess we can ignore each of the instances where there was a woman on the POTUS / VPOTUS ticket. Got it.
Because men had a 120 year head start at electoral politics. More time, more opportunities, more generations of fathers training their sons to be politicians than mothers training their daughters.
Hillary out-muscled Bernie the old fashioned way. You'd have an easier time arguing Obama pulled the rug out from under Hillary (re: Michigan). At least that was a close race.
You're ignoring all the instances where there wasn't. You think LBJ would have lost to Goldwater if Humphrey had tits? Or that Reagan needed Bush's dick to crush Mondale by 20 points? Do you think Obama needed to be a man to win, when he was already playing with the biggest handicap in national politics?
Put your name on the ballot and, statically speaking, your gender simply does not matter.
You should read more about Political Science, you'd understand a lot more and you wouldn't have to pull made up numbers from your ass.
My Brother in Christ, you need to read more English, because you don't seem to understand the words on your screen.
The two female candidates who lost were WILDLY more qualified than felon rapist pedophile Donald Trump.
If that doesn't tell you that this country isn't ready for a female president, then you are actively refusing to acknowledge objective reality and I can only presume you have a fetish for losing.
Ready to gamble what's left of our democracy?
According to whom? You're trying to apply an objective rubric to a purely subjective selection process and mistaking the job of President for job of Running For President.
That's long before you get into Harris's "qualifications" as a party flak riding the coat tails of her superiors. Let's not forget that Harris has never won a national primary. She couldn't even win her home state the one time she put her toe in the water in '20. She was unqualified for President for the same reason Bernie Sanders and Marco Rubio and Michael Bloomberg were unqualified. Because they were losers.
I will put all my chips on a Zohran Mamdani or Rashida Talib before I bet a bent penny on the next Pete Buttigieg or Beto O'Rourke.
We need winners, not nepo hires, running the party going forward.