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TL;DR: Valve launched the Steam Frame VR headset with an Arm-based Snapdragon chip, aiming to run Half-Life: Alyx natively and streamed from PC. The new hardware features a "Frame Verified" status for optimized games, while rumors suggest two upcoming Half-Life titles supporting PC and VR cooperative play.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 97 points 5 days ago (4 children)

If the price for their device isn't too high, I might actually finally own a VR headset.

There's no way I'd ever buy something from Meta. All the other devices are way too expensive and compliated to set up. This new Valve Frame is going to be perfect.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago

If the pricing was going to be what we want, they'd have straight up told us it.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

My guess is around $1,000 USD

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (4 children)

They haven't said the final price, but they've said it will be cheaper than the index, so definitely the under $1000.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The Index was $1,000.

If we’re playing by The Price is Right rules, I’ll guess $899.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I would like to buy a vowel.

Oops Wrong Bob.

[–] ninth_plane@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If we’re playing by The Price is Right rules, I’ll guess $899.

I'll guess $900.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago

Ooh, it was 899.99, so close, but you went over, sorry! Better luck next time @ninth_plane@lemmy.world

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

but they’ve said it will be cheaper than the index

I missed this - that would be lovely

[–] iLStrix@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I thought they said they are aiming to at least not be more expensive than the Index? So 1000 USD might still be in the ball range, but it might very likely be less expensive.

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Seeing as the Quest is their main competitor it'll have to be less expensive if it's to gain any traction.

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Not necessarily. The quest is a very closed ecosystem. Steam frame being far more open is a huge selling point for them and might attract enough enthusiasts.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I wonder if they'll have a package with base stations? I know it doesn't need it, but it might make for a better experience for those who do want it.

The ltt vid said that valve were not going to produce the index hardware anymore. So probably not. But they were open to someone else taking on the index if they wanted.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

afaik the steamframe doesn't have the IR detectors required to work with lighthouse based tracking.

trying to use both (steamframe optical track and lighthouse) would be.... interesting

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago

why would it be better than inside out?

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Which is ridiculous for canadians. We're talking $1300-1500 cdn

[–] Acidbath@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I reeeeaaaally hope they do something like how microsoft and playstation purposefully sell their consoles at a loss ( I think it was 360 and ps3 ). One can dream.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No. They've told LTT and Gamers Nexus that these will not be loss leaders. They want to make hardware sustainable for themselves

[–] Acidbath@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

tbh I didn't know there was a term for this lol. No matter what price they decide on, I do hope to pick one up.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. You can sell 'pure consoles' at a loss and make it up with games sales. This is basically a mini PC that you could reinstall the OS and use for any purpose. Selling it at a loss would be crazy.

[–] Acidbath@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

100000% it would be crazy. If I remember correctly, the xbox one and ps4 weren't really sold as loss leaders, that or they were priced closer to their manufacturing cost.

I have been thinking, I don't think it really matters to them what the consumer does with their machine. I mean, at the end of the day, you're still gonna be buying steam games simply for the service.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imagine the loss when the US government decides to buy a bunch of em PS3s for their supercomputer —

[–] Acidbath@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

tbh that was a cool airforce moment. Idk about current day, I doubt anyone would buy a shit ton of steam machines just to make a hpc cluster. BUT it would be cool af :]

[–] dodos@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Its possible, iirc steam deck was sold at a loss of $150 per unit.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's probably going to cost about the same as the Index did

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 days ago

About three fiddy?