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Every day I am forced to confront that the the Democratic Party won the White House and Congress in 2020 and instead of doing the smart thing and ending the filibuster, packing the court, and going scorched Earth on the GOP which, mind you, had just tried to overthrow the election, they kicked back and proceeded to do absolutely nothing of note except cut a blank check for the most televised genocide of the last 30 years.

A disciplined party could have un-fucked everything trump did in the span of a few month, but they chose not to. They chose not to, and now we're all paying for it.

The purpose of a system is what it does.

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[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

voting for them atleast stalls for more time to get enough people to come to their senses before the fascists take away any chance at change

[–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Does it? Tell that to the people that the "lesser evil" mass deported. Tell that to the people that died from treable diseases, because they couldn't afford healthcare. Tell that to the innocent people that the "lesser evil" blew up.

The last few times time we had "lesser evil", they spent their entire time building the infrastructure that "more evil" is currently using.

I've also noticed that every time the "lesser evil" gets voted in, it just reafirms the voters' belief that the "lesser evil" isn't going to fix anything. So those voters often end up wanting to throw the entire system away, thus giving us Trump.

[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

and if no one voted for the "lesser evil" Trump would have even more power and would have killed even more people

[–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And if no one voted for the "greater evil" the Democrats would have even more power and would have killed even more people

[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

if no one voted for the "greater evil" than we would no longer need the democrats. Which is my point, we need the democrats until we can educate enough people about the "greater evil" If we didn't have the democrats, more people would be dead, and any chance of bringing change would be gone. You could be pushing for positive change instead you are crying because things are not already perfect

[–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why do we need the Democrats for that? What we need is an actual opposition party, not a pretend-opposition party.

If we didn’t have the democrats, more people would be dead...

Citation needed. Why would the killing stop? The Democrats kill innocent people all the time. Harris literally ran on keeping america a "deadly force".

...and any chance of bringing change would be gone.

What do you think the point of the Democratic party is? Their entire goal is to prevent change from happening, by pretending to fight against it.

You could be pushing for positive change instead you are crying because things are not already perfect

I am pushing for positive change. I want a party that actually fights, which is demonstrably not the Democrats.

If you think my problem is that the Democrats "aren't perfect", then I think you don't understand my problem at all. I think blowing up innocent people, putting people in cages, electing rapists, supporting genocide, screwing over the working class is a bit different than "aren't perfect".

[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 week ago

we need democrats because it has been shown over and over that introducing a third party simply splits the vote. unless the republicans also have a split at the same time a third party would have no chance of winning and we would just be giving the victory to the fascists.

I didn't say the killings would stop, they would be lessened, it would be best to stop them all together, but by not doing anything you are simply letting more killings happen.

Democrats are stagnation, but Republicans are regression. Letting the republicans win because the democrats aren't doing enough is simply changing things for the worse rather than not changing things at all. If you want positive change and if you want the party to fight than you need to set an example.

We get nowhere by splitting the party, that is what I am trying to say, we need to bring others in. You cannot do that by attacking people who are trying to prevent the worst from happening while yourself refusing to help because the alternative is still bad. The Democrats have issues, so it is our duty to do one of three things.

  1. we could fix the democratic party and actually make it work towards progress. Which means not just being vocal about concerns but actually taking action (seriously we need more people who have concerns about how things are going like you do running for local offices)
  2. we could continue to focus fully on fighting against the greater evil until it falls and we can create a new party to take down the lesser evil
  3. we could get lucky with both parties splitting allowing the country to break out of the two party system.

Fighting your allies only leads to the enemy winning, change cannot come from dividing the people who want change