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Cause HES are eejits! Rockfall has been a feature of the path for centuries. Stick up some signs and tear down the gates. This isn't a hard thing to do!

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[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The section with the highest and intolerable risk has an estimated probability of a fatality from a rockfall event of one in 4,886.

What???

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It means that for every 4886 people who walked past that part of the crags, you could expect 1 to be killed from falling rocks.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

”The section with the highest and intolerable risk has an estimated probability of a fatality from a rockfall event of one in 4,886.”

I think your interpreting that incorrectly, and much too high.

I suspect there are a lot more visitors than rockfall events.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 2 weeks ago

I hope so! In a touristy town like Edinburgh that could easily be a fatality per day. More even, during the Fringe.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I understood that, it's just that that would be a completely ridiculous number.
Either math gone horribly wrong, or there is some missing vital context.

[–] docus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Probably means that out of 4886 occasions of rocks falling down, one will kill a person, 4885 just land without causing death

[–] Olap@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And given there are minor falls maybe weekly it still means that 1 death in 100 years. Maybe.

Total nonsense to do barriers and fences. Just open the road!

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And when that death happens, who pays out the lawsuit? Since HES is responsible for the area their lawyers have likely said the liability is too high.

I get it, it's dumb, and actually easily fixed with proper mesh installed, but that also costs money.

[–] Olap@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nobody pays. Who pays in a rockfall on any other mountain? Land ownership is complicated in Scotland, but a right to roam means a personal safety responsibility. HES should be under no obligation for any deaths, just like the Duke of Sutherland (or whichever owner) isn't if you go climbing Lochnagar

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

🤷 fair dues