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I find broccoli discorse fascinating, because it seems like there's a lot of people who feel the need to shower it in praise because it's the default "eww vegies suck" vegetable.
IMO broccoli is ok. it's like median tastiness veg. Makes some dishes good, makes others suck.
But if you look at the dishes where broccoli is good, it's always something along the lines of "we lathered this in cheese" or "dunked in salty oil and roasted". It's good and the broccoli definetely makes it better, but I also question if you just like cheese and oil.
You're describing the most basic of seasoning and cooking. That's a weird position to take, that you don't really like a food unless you eat it raw and unseasoned.
Right? I roast mine in the oven, so I must just like heat.
not really?
italian and japanese cuisine don’t consider fat and seasoning the “basics” of cooking - quite the opposite actually. these cultures consider exemplifying the inherent qualities of the fresh ingredients more important and it shows in their dishes. just look at a proper italian pasta dish, or some sushi/sashimi…
it’s only a weird position if you come from a culture where “maximize the amount of brain chemicals this dumps out” is the objective of the cuisine…
that’s more of an italian american thing. some italians use olive oil and salt in some dishes - sure, but it’s in dishes where the flavors are supposed to be olive oil and salt.
i agree broccoli with olive oil is p good tho
That's a pretty safe bet, given that oil is a great flavour conductor helping flavour remain on the tongue longer, and cheese being a cultured product brings a lot of complex umami flavours to the table.
Most people prefer their food cooked and seasoned, yes (if you call salt seasoning). That said, you can eat it raw if you so prefer.
I honestly think the stem is the best part. I love gai lan for that reason.
Of course salt is seasoning, what a ludicrous equivocation.
Yeah, raw broccoli still sucks ass if it's not slathered in dip/dressing, and unfortunately cooking vegetables destroys most of the nutritional benefits. Cooked broccoli is delicious, but it's essentially just excess carbs at that point.
No. Cooked vegetables are still healthy. And so are carbs. You don't have to eat raw food.
I didn't say they weren't healthy, just that the majority of nutritional value is gone, which is true. I also didn't say carbs are bad, but excess ones definitively are.
Median? Ok I want a list of a few above the median.