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[โ€“] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

if you don't consider fuel transport emissions, I don't see what's the problem with classifying cars that run on renewable gasoline/diesel to have zero emissions.

[โ€“] rbn@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

No vehicle has zero emmissions due to manufacturing, for maintenance etc. The electricity is not zero emmissions either. First of all, it's not 100% renewable and second, even if it was we'd at least have emmissions for manufacturing and maintenance of solar cells, turbines etc.

Furthermore, emmissions is not only CO2. There's also microplastics and - in case of combustion engine cars - you still have harmful substances when burning the (hypothetically existing) e-fuels.

BEVs aren't perfect, but the overall energy required during the lifecycle is significantly lower. And energy in this context more or less equals harm to the environment.

From my perspective, no form of transport should be labeled zero emmissions, but if we allow that label it should be only granted to the most efficient options per sector which is BEVs for cars.

[โ€“] Peer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agree, but if you live next to a highway, zero emissions means youโ€™ll be healthier. So in that way the label makes sense.

[โ€“] br3d@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

While "less sick" is technically "healthier", if you live near a highway you really should be thinking in terms of degrees of sickness, because that thing will be harming you. Also, consider how your life expectancy is being reduced considerably thanks to vehicle noise, which is barely different between ICE and EVs at highway speeds

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