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i know you've all heard it before, but i didn't catch up, i was honestly a bit surprised when i was browsing and tesseract on dubvee shut down.

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[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Its a shame, it was one of the best clients. And admiral Patrick was very helpful to all admins, too ☹️

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah, not so nice for just downvoting a post of his though. Fediverse is better off without that kind of toxic behaviour.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would you downvote that post though?

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The post was fine, the premise is wrong about the fediverse. That's why I downvoted and didn't interact further.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Hm, I see. Fair, to be honest.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

What did you interpret the premise to be? I read the post when it was up, and it read to me like OP was saying essentially that too many toxic users and not enough admins willing to stand up to them make the overall experience not fun.

EDIT: Which is accurate in my mind at least when it comes to Lemmy

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

This fediverse experiment was a failure.

The whole notion that the fediverse is a failure. Ptz is entitled to his opinion, but he couldn't be serious that everyone would hold that inflammatory opinion as well. I still stand by my opinion that the fediverse is better off without toxic admins like this.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah I remember that in the YPTB room yesterday. Normally I'd be harsh on this stuff but it's the end of the instance anyway, we'd be wasting our breaths. Also, I was talking about how helpful he was to other admins, idk if he is a PTB in his own spaces :p

[–] Tweekerz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

agreed, i love tesseract

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

as a dev sure. as an admin he had a recent kerfuffle on news, etc, with bans and involvement in some drama around them.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Guy instance banned a bunch of people simply for speaking up in favor of Luigi, before it got clear how many supporters there were. Admin-wise, some questionable decisions. Still he did a lot of good for Lemmy. Shame to lose him.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

oh did not know abt those bans. he got me when I posted intolerance of nazis because I was “dehumanizing” them. but yeah. as a dev good! administration was just too much for him.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was he not aware of the paradox of tolerance and the Nazi bar parable?

[–] Microw@piefed.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Afaik he tolerated no support for calls for violence whatsoever on his instance. Which is his freedom to do as his line of moderating, but obviously brought him into conflict with the beliefs of many on Lemmy

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

And I so fully support banning calls for violence. in my example (anecdotally) there was no violence just uncomfortable rhetoric. (also he was a mod of news on .world at the time - not just his instance but maybe that’s how it works here? not fully sure.)

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you’re advocating violence against people you arbitrarily deem nazis it doesn’t make you a good guy and you’re likely breaking plenty of laws regardless of jurisdiction. I’m seeing liberals advocating violence against people voting for Trump, that’s pretty dehumanising.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A) I never advocated violence. I support a prohibition on such actions.

B) I did not arbitrarily label anyone anything. The subjects themselves did it. I merely used the labels they give themselves in my commentary about the kinds of people they are.

C) I am in no way, shape, or form a liberal.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I didn’t have to scroll that far lol

reminder: these fascists assholes are not human. they give up all humanity when they actively choose to become or remain within this trump nazi cult. so when we say “nazis are not human” we are not dehumanizing them; they did it to themselves. these fuckwits need prison. all of them.

Get educated on how nazis dehumanised people so that it would make violence possible later before you go around calling people nazis. For a nazi hunter you seem to know little about nazism, or pretend not to because you’re just out for revenge.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Specifically I was talking about how helpful he was to other admins, he made out lives a lot easier. Can't comment on dubvee moderation