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[โ€“] Benedict_Espinosa@europe.pub 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It is indeed bad for US businesses and consumers, and therefore for US economy in general, but as US market is so big and important, it's also bad for countries doing business with US, including in Europe, like, for example, German carmakers or French and Italian alcohol exporters.

[โ€“] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Though that's only true for the first few years. Once alternatives are established and trade with America is reduced it will be less and less until America will be not interesting anymore

[โ€“] Benedict_Espinosa@europe.pub 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Unless Trump starts ww3 we will have a few more painful years of transition and then the new normal will be normal and the better deals will win, which won't be with America.

[โ€“] Benedict_Espinosa@europe.pub 1 points 15 hours ago

We must not forget that it's not only about trade. There's also a military dimension, and if all US support to Ukraine ends abruptly and completely, then there's a very real chance that Putin will win soon. That creates an entirely new security situation, where Russia may well attack EU countries next (like the Baltics, for example).

[โ€“] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago

France and Italy could export to other countries easily or transform their cheap wine into properly aged wines and liqcours, with actual market value and product quality. Downsizing the industry wouldn't be a bad idea, also.

Germany is already dwindling in their car industry. Could serve as a call to innovation an review of business practices.